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AN "Sixclusive" Part III of V: Seth Smith

Part I of this series featured Brandon McCarthy and Part II featured Josh Reddick. After the jump, hear from Seth Smith, interviewed along side Josh Reddick at FanFest's "blogger exclusive," followed by my analysis of the A's OF and DH situation and the team's rumored interest in Manny Ramirez and Conor Jackson.

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Nico: Obviously what would be best for you, career-wise, would be to handle left-handed pitching the way you handle right-handed pitching. I was wondering what you can do, other than just "getting a lot of at bats against lefties," what are the things you feel would get you from where you are to where you want to be?

Smith: I think getting more at bats is pretty much the thing. You know, I hit ‘em in the minor leagues fine, and in 2009 I hit ‘em great, and then 2010 was the first time I started seeing them sparingly. In 2011, my final numbers weren't that good, and I didn't really face them a lot then either. But I get good at bats, and the numbers aren't there and they definitely need to be there, but it's not as bad as it looks and I definitely feel confident when I get in the box against a lefty.

You know a lefty vs. lefty, especially in my position it was a little tough because you don't play against them a lot and then when you do it's a left-handed reliever type guy who's in baseball to get you out. So, I need to improve against lefties but at the same time it's not as bad as it seems.

Editor's note: Let's check Smith's self-assessment against the data...

Smith's minor league slash lines against LHP were:

2005 (A+, age 22) .273/.347/.407

2006 (AA, age 23) .300/.349/.392

2007 (AAA, age 24) .262/.373/.385

2008 (AAA, age 25) .273/.392/.348

Conclusion: Smith did hold his own against LHPs, but he didn't slug much, and in these seasons he was generally batting about 40 points higher, with an OBP about 20-30 points higher, and a SLG% a full 100-200 points higher, against RHPs. Smith's SLG% against RHPs, as he climbed up the minors, was .479, .518, .584, and .574. He mashed RHPs, and merely "got on base a fair amount" against LHPs.

At the major league level:

In 2009, in 68 PAs, Smith hit .259/.368/.500 against LHPs.

In 2010, in 53 PAs, Smith hit .154/.182/.212 against LHPs (he walked only once!)

In 2011, in 99 PAs, Smith hit .217/.272/.304 against LHPs

Conclusion: Smith didn't actually get more opportunity in 2009 than he did in 2010-11, and the statistical noise on all these stats is enormous, but his recollection of when he succeeded and when he failed is accurate.


Question
: How excited are you to get the chance to play every day, and not sit on the bench behind somebody in a spot role?

Smith: You have to be excited; I'm excited. I was in Denver, and it was great - got called up in 2007 and played in the World Series, and my playing time built throughout my career, but never got the opportunity to be "the guy," and in some aspects felt I earned the right to at least have that opportunity and was never given it, So I'm excited about the opportunity to come here and have a legitimate shot.


Question
: You're coming from a hitting environment that's obviously completely different (from Oakland). Do you have ways that you plan to not let that get in your head?

Smith: I've talked to (Jason) Giambi, I've talked to Mark Ellis, and kind of gotten their feel for it and they said it's definitely different, but I'm going to take the same approach. Coors Field is obviously a great, if not the best, place to hit but it's not as "crazy" as people think it is. It's fair, homerun-wise; you're not going to pop one up - maybe down the line here and there, but that's anywhere - but there's a lot of green grass and it's built for line drives and doubles, which from what I hear is what (the Coliseum) is built for. So it kind of plays into the type of hitter that I am. I've been fortunate to hit a good number of homeruns in my career so far, but it's not something I try to do and it's not something I build my game around. So I think there will be some small adjustments here and there that I'll have to make, but overall if I have good at bats and hit line drives, I think I'll be ok.


Manny? Conor?

Speaking of Seth Smith, and the crowded "OF-DH picture," I have to say that the alleged interest in Manny Ramirez and Conor Jackson has this fan and writer confuzzled. The trades for Smith, Reddick, and Collin Cowgill, and the signing of Jonny Gomes, along with the "now or never" status of the talented but enigmatic trio of Chris Carter, Michael Taylor, and Brandon Allen, leaves no room for Manny to be Manny or for Conor to search for his missing ‘n' without completely undermining the point of the rebuild: To find out what you have, and to figure out who can help you in the upcoming years.

As it is, you have to platoon Seth Smith with Jonny Gomes just to field an OF of Smith, Gomes, Crisp, and Reddick, with Cowgill as your 5th OFer. Signing Jackson would most likely squeeze Cowgill out of a major league job and at age 25, having already mastered AAA, Cowgill is ready for a big league trial. (Already squeezed out of the Opening Day mix, it would appear, is Taylor, now 26 and poised to repeat AAA.)

Meanwhile, signing Manny means -- well, it means nothing in April and May, when he's not even eligible to play. But ultimately, it means Chris Carter hears footsteps when what I feel the A's need to do is to hand Carter the DH job and tell him to relax, that 2012 is for finding out what he can do, so relax and show us what you can do. You will find that out best if Carter is not looking over his shoulder, or worrying about a bad week or month costing him his job.

I dearly hope the A's won't give up on Allen just because he had a lousy month. 2012 is the ideal year to give these guys who are in their mid-20s -- Allen, Carter, Reddick, Cowgill, Taylor -- a long look, a legitimate chance to show what they can do. Hopefully a couple of those guys emerge as "keepers," and there's enough talent in that group for it to be a real possibility. Manny Ramirez and Conor Jackson can only take playing time away from the very players who need that "full season shot": Talented guys in their mid-20s for whom it's "now or never" time. Signing a "has-been" or a "never-quite-was" will simply not help this team further its goals. Committing to the "mid-20s guys" for the 2012 season will.

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and Cliff Pennington will be pushed by Eric Sogard for our starting SS position...
I do agree with you Nico

insofar as seeing what the A’s actually have in some of these guys who have never really gotten a chance to prove themselves. Signing Manny makes sense in the sense that, because of the suspension, it will give the A’s a chance to actually see what they have for 50 games and if they do have someone who appears like they can handle that DH/OF spot, they can simply cut Manny. OR better yet, have Manny come back, see if he can hit for a month and if he can, then surely you find out that some other contender might want a guy with 500 plus homers in his career.

Now CoJack doesn’t make nearly as much sense to me especially with Gomes in play. To me, it’s an either/or type situation because Gomes can essentially be that split guy with Smith if you want to go that route. Jackson seemingly makes no sense other than I know that Bob Melvin loves the guy.

I think that if they get CoJack,

he would be more of a 1B option who can play OF if need be rather than just another OF. He wasn’t a great hitter last year, but he was better than Allen, Carter, Barton, and Kila. And I’m not saying it would be smart (it would be terrible) but I think that’s the purpose he would serve

This is why I kind of disagree with the "let the kids play" approach
He wasn’t a great hitter last year, but he was better than Allen, Carter, Barton, and Kila.

It is pretty pathetic that Conor Jackson outperformed all of our young “talent”.

Now I think Carter, of all of them, has shown the most potential, and based on his track record, takes a while to figure it out at each level. That being said, CoJack is not the guy you want in there. I’m happy they got Smith and Reddick though because we couldn’t possibly watch 4 positions of under .200 hitting.

They clearly are going to let Sizemore play, which is great. And 1B and DH are open battles. Signing Manny doesn’t change that, as he would start with a 50-game suspension.

I’m glad they picked up Smith, Reddick and Gomes, because handing Taylor and Cowgill the 4th and 5th OF jobs by default is lunacy and sends a message to everyone that performance is not rewarded. The 4th and 5th OFs play a lot, especially with Bob “Mad Scientist” Melvin at the helm.

There are currently at least 4 positions open – Starting 1B, Starting DH, 5th OF, and Utility Infielder. That’s plenty of opportunities for our young guys to get a look.

In addition, Barton will not be able to play the field for the first month of the season, so one of Kila/Carter/Allen will have all of spring training plus a month to prove their worth.

Bill King used to remind us not to fall in love in March or September

(speaking of baseball prospects, of course)

Spring Training is not enough time for Kila/Carter/Allen to prove anything.

Those are wise words.

I agree that it doesn’t prove much, but it’s enough to prove that they are worth a shot…and then if they play well they prove they are worth more of shot

Can Barton be put on a rehab assignment?

If he can’t field for the first month of season this could buy time for Carter and Allen.

I'm anticipating Allen as the Opening Day 1Bman with Carter at DH

The Melvin interview, which will probably run early next week, sheds a little light.

YES!

That is exactly where we should be on OD. Still like the +’s of bringing in Manny cheap. I would like Barton to leave frankly. It was just a short time ago he wasn’t sure if this was even the life for him, and I think it shows as much as Carter’s lack of confidence shows.

I agree with Nico about Manny and CoJack

and about giving Allen, Taylor and Carter legitimate shots at trying to stick with the A’s. Carter in particular needs to relax, which from all accounts (including from Melissa Lockard) is part of his problem whenever he moves up a level.

I don’t believe Manny has much left, personally.

Manny and CoJack are nothing but revenue sharing dumps IMO
agree

if the a’s are gonna spend money, spend it on edwin jackson (who dave cameron suggested maybe would be wise to sign here to build value)

here’s the q and a:

Where should Edwin Jackson sign a 1 year to boost his value?

How about Oakland? Big park, potentially good defense behind him, would trade him to a contender in the summer, and he would still be able to prove he could pitch in the big boy league. Plus, he’d get to face the Mariners offense a few times. That couldn’t hurt.

He get demolished pitching against the Rangers and Angels!!
let's sign him

and find out if that’s true or not!

The angels have a pretty mediocre offense.

So Seattle, Texas and the Angels combined would equate to a mediocre offense. The division plus the parks make Oakland and Seattle just about the best places to pad Jackson’s stats.

Agreed but

How much more needs to be dumped? Would have figured we were there by now….

I also think that revenue sharing does not require you to make your team actively worse

It’s quite possible that Cowgill is better than CoJack, at least the A’s would have a reasonable argument to make there.

gad, I missed part I and II of the

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actually each part is a different player.

McCarthy was part 1, Reddick Part 2, and Smith part 3. Pennington and Melvin will be the others.

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Now you're just being thilly.
I concur.

If this was truly rebuilding wtf are you doing billy? i have a fear that we are still going to end up outside the top 10 and win around 72-82 games. def didnt need gomes or smith and we def dont need manny. Carter and Taylor both need to have a full year of pa’s without being messed around with too much lineup wise (if that makes sense). And cowgill deserved a shot before we signed coco whom billy is cuco for. but hopefully we can at least give carter and allen a full season of ab’s at the major league level, im just not feeling barton anymore whatsoever. and i hope that taylor and or cowgill gets a decent amount of ab’s down the line as well after we get something for coco at the deadline.

oh and stop spending $

on old dudes who can’t rake anymore….spend it on senior soler!!!!!!!!!

How does everyone else feel about giving Smith

a chance to prove himself against LHP? While I’m not sure if the Gomes signed was a good idea or not, it happened. As long as we have him, I’m not sure why we wouldn’t platoon him.
Even if Seth isn’t that bad against lefties, he’s probably not as good as Gomes. While I’m not necissarily arguing for him to sit every time a lefty is pitching, I don’t see any need to have Gomes unless you are strictly using him against LHP, which would seem to take some PAs away from Smith/Reddick.

Can Gomes play RF and LF?
Smith, Reddick and Cowgill all can

And Reddick and Cowgill can play CF. We should never have a problem with who goes where.

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