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Open Thread: Game 139 - A's at White Sox (cont)

Okay, trying this again. After a lot of adventures, including an early poor defensive start, the A's have bounced back to tie this game at 3. We head to the ninth; let's score!

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cause we can can can can can can can can can!
AN is back UP!!! Yay!

I was feeling way unpopular.

aw, you're SO not not popular BBG

=))

I know, but seeing in confirmed in comment count?!

Sad.

it
correcting typos increases your comment count.
so you're saying I should make 2200 comments about Jack Cust this inning?

just to beef up the comment totals =)

Only if you HAVE to have the highest count totals to make your life complete.
is there a stats-based fanpost in there somewhere

we need a game-by-game count of comments by theme, content and headline, and a snappy acronym so A’s fans can get into it.

GOOD call!!
Nico wins the comment OBP sweepstakes

I get Using 10 Words Where Three Will Do

That's my game too - on a good (or bad) day depending on your point of view

and interest in my pontification

yes we CAN

I know we can oh yes we can can GREAT gawd almighty if we try yes then we CAN CAN

What if this games goes 22 innings?

As long as we win - it's all good

Will we set a record?

It will probably be some sort of a record.

omg this pitcher is scary looking
I heard he threw at his kid

at a father/son game.

that's so wrong

you mean he found someone to procreate with?

You know.....they look totally different without their caps on
When he sneezes he looks like a party favor
He's a convicted felon, isn't he?
it doesn't really say here

Well…he should be!

We can start the rumor....
Starting his ZZ Top-ish goatee thing.
Yes, better late that never
The fan yelling "batter batter swing" was old 5 innings ago
It's Representative Joe Wilson.

South Carolina, is it?

haha nice

political commentary FTW

Or maybe it's that ex-Assemblyman from Orange County

He is quite the swinger.

that guy

OMG, OMG OMG, OMG

Laughs - he already resigned.
I actually did an interoffice mail "TWSS"

When our Sacramento bureau chief emailed “That was the fastest political sex scandal ever!”.

he likes to spank naughty girls
Me too ;-)
i'm sure you're way more attractive than he is

i couldn’t help thinking how desperate those women must’ve been

I think I am

but would have traded it all if I could have continued pitching. I loved it more than anything else ever!

after he spunks them, apparently
Oh no you didn't!
who doesn't?
I don't

cuz I am the gayest sports fan ever born.

It's not spanking so much as

very enthusiastic love pats.

Here's where if the A's were in the race,

I’d match closers and have Bailey pitch the bottom of the 9th through the heart of the order, and then let him go two if the A’s scored in the 10th, or put in Breslow for the 10th if it was tied.

indeed

save that strategy for 2011, maybe we’ll be outta last place by then!

But right now?

Bailey needs saves more than anything else. (Well, maybe ERA under 2)

Right now I wouldn't bother

because Bailey doesn’t need any more 2 IP outings. But I think sometimes on the road, managers get too into saving their closer for a lead when if you already have their closer out of the game sometimes you can outlast the home team if you get your best guys in there to keep pace.

a civil engineer, a mechanical engineer and an economist

were stranded on a bare, sandy desert island and near starving, with no nothing. A lone can of tuna is found on the beach. How do we open it is the discussion the engineers have. The economist chimes in ’Let’s assume we have a can opener….."

ROFL

that’s made me spit up my Shasta, well struck.

Mmmmm fenton's grand slam
fenton's ice cream?
radio description by KK
Nom nom nom

That looks nasty.

I can’t even tell what’s the ice cream, there’s so much junk on it.

no ice cream, it's still bikini season

show me that in november when i can wear a sweater and hide the 5 lbs i’ll gain from that

I like Bres.
Me - too.

AND he’s a braniac which counts for something.

is that hot?
yes

I still get nowhere.

Give it time, sweet biscuit!

One of my closest friends is just over five feet tall and he has a huge afro. Girls love it.

i liked dallas braden's sort of afro, too bad he cut it off
The Bradenfro hella rocked.
I preferred the Mohawk he sported as a rookie
The girls at your age have not learned to appreciate such things - YET
It will buy you a lot of Coach bags
his degree is in biophysics and molecular bio

the only bags he’ll be getting are at conferences full of pens from instrument companies

and his salary will be?
if he becomes a professor?

not a lot. lol

He'll be able to BE a professor without concern for a prof's salary b/c of his career in BB.

I saw him interviewed about a charity he is involved with doing biomedical research. He’s able to do that TOO b/c of baseball I think.

Wait, I'm confused now.

What is it that’s hot? Is it the braininess per se, or is it the assumption that it will lead to higher income?

braininess

but Coach bags were mentioned as well

I think its the combo,

of nerdiness and materialism. I just like nerdy.

The brains.....

smart guys are much more interesting.

Hmm. I know a lot of smart guys.

Some are interesting, some aren’t. It’s definitely possible to be smart and boring.

true....
I don't know about the Coach bag thing....

I don’t rely on a guy for that.

forget coach

how about dolce & gabbana, prada, maxx, charles david, gucci, jimmy choo…

OF course.....

if you’re into that sort of thing……

yo, let's win or something breh
We're gonna!

I can feel it!

YAY Breslow

well done, Buzz Brezlow!

Bonus baseball for the regular price
Bonus Baseball!

And AN’s not Broken!

Woooo extras

record no bueno though

I like Rajai Davis
Rajai with another hit - Don't get picked off this time!
RAJ

every hit renders the opinions i expressed earlier this season resemble those of an angry, distressed & illiterate moose.

A Sweeneyan 2-run homer here
Or, you know, a Sweeneyan single

Davis!

That didn't hurt anything
oh ryan sweeney, all this hitting

such a turn on

I just hope he develops a little more power
A's with runners at the corners after Sweeney single!
starts chant

LET’s go OAK-LAND!!!!

Are we still allowed to say the city?

I thought Lew banned that…

hahahaha

LET’S go _________-_________!!

Clap clap - clapclapclap
major tease VC
yeah

he figured out it hit off Hairston about a minute late there.

Batting averages aren’t everything, yeah, but it’s nice to see Davis at .308 and Sweeney at .285 right now.

Vince Cotroneo sucks
Wince Monotoneo
Wince Moron-eo
I couldn't believe what a dweeb he was being when the game started

I was thinking that goodness I don’t HAVE to listen to this crap a lot!

a lot of people complain about him

but I don’t really understand why?

two reasons

(1) You frequently can’t tell what happened on the field from his descriptions.

(2) He has negative charisma.

I get #2

but he calls a decent ballgame. His stories can drag on a bit though.

On #1 he is noticeably improved since

last season, or even earlier this season. He still has frequent lapses, though.

Damn...I miss Bill King :-(((
So....

How many times will Hairston pop up with RISP?

Hairston

REALLY!?!?!?

You would think after Sunday...
what a waste of a hot guy on base
*and* the A's are wasting a hot guy by keeping him in the minors.

it’s a shame.

that is soooo true

:(

I know this is a bit Little League

but I wish Hairston would have taken another pitch.

It's up to Zooks to do it again...

ah shit, not this time. 3 outs.

yes

the A’s need 4 outs an inning, just to make the games fair LOL

ugly, ugly

major sighs of resignation to a disastrous fate

Oh Brad Kilby
He's a ball...hiiiiiderrr!
I was shooting for the Beatles there
He's a Daaay Tripper!
I haven't seen him pitch yet - should I be scared?
It depends

Is your home fairly stable?

Are there enough words in the English language

to describe just how massively large Bradley Kilby is?

< smiles at the adverb >
Midland takes 1-0 lead in 11th
The A's would like to get there
klever kilby
how about kilby the klown?
we both know that Klown is kind of special to us considering

the fond memories of what’s his name.

Kilby can do that two more times.
Kuiper with the Angels fan reaction
AK sure makes Barton stretch A LOT
I think AK has a better sinker than Cahill
I like Dale's splits
Who doesn't?
I bet his body doesn't
his body probably also doesn't like it

when he dives into shallow pools, but that didn’t stop him last summer…

I'm so not with it....

I thought you were talking about his stats!! Takes me a minute.

I can see why you would think that, except

pffft, when do I talk about stats? Who does that, anyway? Heh.

Alright one more kilby
(eyes get wide)

Dotel?!!?!? Can HE come in?

Only if he sucks as bad as he did when he pitched for us!!
He actually didn't suck that much

He was pretty good and then pitched hurt. Then he said he needed TJ surgery and we said, “Oh no you don’t,” but he had it anyway and it turned out he did.

Larry Davis's Greatest Hits

errr…misses.

I just recollect the bad Octavio.
It started with that first game

and the huge sighs of relief when the game was done and we barely edged the other team out.

He was worse that Izrighausen in that regards.

i remember first game he pitched for us

he struck out the side or something. from there, it was downhill.

post fail

didn’t he strike out the side or something? anyway, it was a gradual decline as i remember

Dotel vs Cust once more
Remember this?

Go ElliE!!!
3 quick outs for Kilby - nice!
YES

nice 4 pitch inning from Kilby

That was awesome!
home run now please
11 innings and only 2 threads?

Kind of a slow night.

Not slow.

AN technical troubles.

It’s still noticeably slow for me. Earlier in the game it was down completely.

Not slow.

AN technical troubles.

It’s still noticeably slow for me. Earlier in the game it was down completely.

AN's been broken

only came back in the ninth

I just got a server error message

Never seen one of those before….I thought we broke it!!

The site was running slow.

Yay!

Markellis!

Ellis on with a single to right... then caught stealing for the 2nd out... may have been safe.
anyone else having the AN site crash on them?
Is this thing broken again?
Am I the only one drinking and watching this game?
And talking to myself?

Where is everybody????

We're here at home reading,

“Oops. Your comment can’t be posted right now. Please try again in a few seconds.”

Damn

AN is frustrating the shit out of me tonight. Ugghh…

I like a battle.
i just froze again on this site
woof?
Rawr!
Wow, and magically,

AN works!

I have that effect on technology.
Never go away, again.
k.
Srsly.

AN died.

apparently.

you guys must’ve been like junkies without a fix.

close to!!
It was like blow without the bananas
SANCHO SENT A MESSAGE FROM THE FAT MAN
sorry man to leave you high and dry
site is jacked up!
apparently.

I slept from end of work til 9pm, watched Top Chef, flipped over and watched “The Hawk” and Steve Stone completely ignore the fact that Ellis was safe on that steal. Literally NOT A WORD.

Surprise. Surprise. Surprise.
I don't EVER listen to other announcers.

Except him. I’ve come to accept the fact I’m shallow and hateful and only listen to him to completely despise him.

oh no

edgar gonzalez

Is that Kilby's first man on base?
is AN on crack?

did AN smoke the crack in the Bay Bridge? It’s acting craaaaazy.

Damn!!!

Ks – OUTs whatever it takes…..

ok now i'm scared

and i hate that aj guy with his fake hair

Michael Barrett is your hero.
seems a little easier to post now
Shift-C still not working for me.

Am I the only one who uses it?

what the hell does shift c do?
Like C but up instead of down.
okay, who killed AN?
It's a murder mystery......
HR for Wallace

6-1 Kitties in the 5th.

oh no

it’s J Edgar Loser, yikes.

just get this out... I want more b-ball tonight.
Um

Edgon in for Kilby.

Uh.

Right.

"paulie" sheesh that irritates me.
We lose
shhhhhhh

Collective out think – right now!

How many times have I heard that tonight?

Wrong every time.

It keeps throwing me off.

I have to go check to the score to make sure we didn’t actually lose (yet).

Indeed.

Prolepsis fails.

I know

It’s irritating me too

UN believable.....are.you.kidding.me???
When did the A's get Ricardo Rincon back?
Mr. April gonna kill us here.
I think i rather face Dye here anyway.
Mr. April comes through again.
well, I have successfully not done anything productive tonight.

Although I did have tortellini for dinner (instead of a bagel). And I did throw away the dead cockroach that I found in my kitchen. So I guess those count for something.

Good bugs, huh?

It amazing how big the bugs get here.

they LOVE humidity
esp. roaches.

they have a huge version here. They call them “Palmetto Bugs” but they’re not fooling me. They’re big frickin roaches.

What a lovely way to refer to a disgusting bug!
that's Florida, dude.
Ain't no such thing as a good bug
I'm just glad the first cockroach I saw was a dead one.

That was bad enough. [shudder]

wait til you wake up with one on you.

(and y’all think I just bitch about Florida just ot bitch…)

don't even SAY such a thing.

I think I would be traumatized for life.

tortellini

whoever decided to put cheese in pasta ought to have a statue next to the person who put chocolate with peanut butter.

I agree completely.
Tortellini in chicken broth with parmesan cheese and french bread with butter.

Most excellent comfort food!

YES!

YES! YES! YES!

(reference to Buehrle's no-no)
oh boy

we’re all gonna DYE!!!!!!

NOT!!!!

that was close baby
wow i feel like we all just went through something
We did!!!

We lived through AN madness and a close call!!

Why are zip-lok bags so hard to close?

Thank you . . .

don't buy the cheap ones
because they are too stuffed

with REALLY GOOD WEED? ;)

remember when people used to put that stuff

into film canisters.

Uh...no

I mean…uh…yes.

yeah, and i thought, man those things had film and chemicals

stuff in them, can’t be good for you.

my roommate would stuff it into his speakers
neither is formaldahyde

but people still sprinkle it on their doobage from time to time.

sprinkle some crack on it

Oh Chappelle…

Remember FILM CAnnisters???

Can’t put it in a memory stick…..

OK guys....collective out think worked.....

TIME for collective RUN THINK!!!

Why the hell would you bring in Marshall?

Your 1 long reliever got 1 out.

Marshall should not come in period

Hopefully we get a lead and it will be a moot point.

Don't try to understand the Geren Pitching Change Randomizer
MoneyPenny makes the blooper reel
let's go

OAK-land!!!!

And Lenny DiNardo makes his season debut tomorrow for the royals

Wow, he’s still pitching?

apparently not until tomorrow
Oh wow, forgot about him.
shirtless pic please
i knew someone would bring that up
I'm glad i didnt let you down!
I feel like I should know what this is referring to,

and yet I am clueless. This is sad.

I think we decided last night that As playing shirtless was a good thing!
I am disappointed in you.

I might have to revoke your oogling license.

nooo, anything but my oogling license

I do not know what I would do without my right to oogle.

It may break AN, but here goes...

Pay no attention to the man on the right

not sure if the shorts or the guy are whiter
mamma mia!
he was on the A's?

omg

A few years ago, yes.

Was a borderline 5th starter, who got lucky with us a few times before he regressed.

The other guy is Bronson Arroyo, right?
ew, is that Bronson Arroyo on the right? scary.

I think DiNardo’s nicknames are starting to make a lot more sense now.

this photo goes right up there with the saltalamcaahia - cj wilson one!
Ozzie's head 'splode now

you deserve to lose even more, Pierzynski-harborers

I really like this.
When I read the comment, I assumed it was you.

Was surprised to see someone else’s signature.

It's a Zelig thing

I’m an unthinking mimic and reading thousands of LB comments has perhaps led to me aping his style, biting his rhymes, opening up a sign shop.

I would've gladly given you my life, had you asked.

I wouldn’t even had made you do the whole change hairstyles and move in with me thing.

Just as long as it's not a Bud Zelig thing.
Way to go, Geren
AK 47 Failed

did not fire

Octopus is in?
Octopus?

Get my spear gun

Dotel looks thinner than when he was ours....

and older

White Sox not feeding him as well?
'Course,

I always got him confused (appearance wise) with Durazo

time will do that to you
Raj!

Make something happen!

now is the time to

Raj against the machine

Anyone else etired of that idiot?

Going swing batta batta SWING?

isn't that the guy from Tampa Bay???

who used to pick on one guy and ride him?

Thought he moved to Chicago? Or, he has an imitator…

come on raj, catch up to that.
for shits sake
What do you call a frozen Crunch bar?

Thank you.

Was that a hit-and-run with two strikes?
wow this is run and gun tonight

Punk-zinskoid will need an icepack, he has throw more than Torres last night.

and here I thought it would be a tidy MW'er gametime

but it’s spilling over into a late night.

refresh me on your 20?
Wichita, KS

“The Air Capital of the WORLD” but you can’t fly out of here for less than $400.

ahh yes, that's right.

as falls wichita so falls …. i can never remember that Pat Methany cd

Pat Metheny is awesome
i thought i was the only one i knew who listened to him
Now were the only ones we know.

I like his ECM Group sides the most, the rest is meh-ish. Aside from of course, Song X. Big Ornette fan here.
His Quintet discs are outstanding as well.

Ever heard of Flim & The BB's?
I have!

I have an old cassette somewhere….

I've been finding their stuff used on Amazon

Have 3 of their CD’s and love ’em!!

They're from Minnesota, of course
very underrated jazz fusion
do you have nay Kenny Loggins?
My parents have some old vinyl Kenny

I am ashamed to admit.

do THEY love a rainy night?
I've spent many a hot day in Wichita

have some friends from college who live there

Just put in a sprinkler system this weekend

cuz it does get hot, hot, hot.

OOOOOh I bet that was fun in the heat!!
hoping for the fescue to give bermuda hell!!
that's why I love having a condo

don’t have to worry about lawn care

Good decision, my friend.
i had a place with a huge lawn

and I was always working – and lazy….. a neighborhood that prided its self on lawn care, green, always mowed. I would find notes on my door “you ought to mow it soon.”

I'd kidnap his pets.
somewhere in the middle....Kansas or Iowa....
what a f'n wasted inning that was
Night, my loves!

Dead tired.

Let’s Go A’S!

later lynnz

hopefully we’ll win one for the lynnzer

What time zone are you in??
I'm in the danger zone
Kenny Loggins

oh wow

a while back we did about 50 posts on Kenny Loggins songs

yes I’m pathetic

we all are pathetic.

and I love a rainy night.

Eddie the Rabbit
same dif.

same hair, right?

Kenny Loggins Fail

for Mr. Bloom

I fell so poorly because I mis-identified a Kenny Loggins song.

Wait, doesn’t that make me a winner?

you should just say "I'm alright"
OK we need a K here WellFedgar
Every time I say we lose we get out of it

So we lose.

Dude, fail!

It doesn’t work if you acknowledge it! You have to say it with a straight face.

So

We win?

I don’t know what to do!!!

Well, that worked.
I know what I'm doing, yo
are you from New Jersey?
Gosh, no

What did I do to you?

You said yo.

It’s a Jersey thing, apparently. And apparently, Florida is a significant improvement to Jersey. Lots of Jerseyites around.

LOL No

I actually only say yo when I’m joking around.

Hayward native

We don't wanna turn on you.....

Let’s Go Oakland!!

clap clap clapclapclap
yeah, that did it, I am pre-loading a Click now
here we go again. keep the luck going.
OK one more out

you can do it Edgar

woo.

13. lucky 13.

Must score now

need more than singles

Wow, White Sox 1 for 16 with runners in scoring position. Major fail.

Let’s win this thing already.

they remind me of....us.
This game is funny.

I love extra innings. I love them more when the other team leaves tons of guys on base.

nothing beats free baseball
Oh I don't know about that
well, you have a point

but it’s still pretty cool

A's bullpen

is off the hook, 10 innings scoreless tonight.

A's bullpen

is toast, 10 innings pitched tonight

I like toast
do you like your toast

burned to a crisp?

depends....butter or jam?
Vegemite.

I keed.

not burned to a crisp

and with strawberry jam

At least they have tmrw off
There's enough of 'em down there....
sweeney - hit the long ball pretty please!!
yes, make them pay for trading you sweeney
The A's list of pitchers is almost as long as the batting order.

Odd game.

Thats what happens

when your starter can only go 3.

side note:

I keep reading “Green” as “Geren” and “Geren” as “Green”. Which would make your username “BleedGeren”. Which might not be a bad thing.

How much would we be hating

if the A’s colors were Geren and gold?

would we have to kill Geren to get the color Geren?
Maybe THAT's what Geren needs - I am so laughing right now

a good old fashioned bleed!! LOL

Is that Drew Barrymore at the game?
really?

damn. makes me wish i was there even more

not really

I would love to have my date with Drew

me first
threesome
with me and cuppingmaster?
i'm greedy

i want her to myself

I would share her with OAH.
you 2 and drew, i was trying to help out
I love Drew!

Is this one we can all agree on?

yes!
Need to know if R-Star is on board.

She’s probably milfy to him.

that's scary. Drew as a MILF.
I remember her as the baby sister in E.T.

So cute!

I know.

We’re getting old.

Is she going to get hit in the face like in "Fever Pitch"?
Isn't Dotel's arm going to fall off yet
nah, bionic
He's the $60.00 man
Hairston becomes the untier
WOW

On both accounts

Dropped ball in CF - laughs
and mr. hairston should have been to second.
Kangaroo Court!

Unacceptable!

Captain Kangaroo?
even he would run that one out
Mr. Rogers would kick Captain Kangaroo's butt
He would tie him up with his sweater

than beat him with a dress shoe!!

In his sweater vest?

You must be joking. Cap’n looked like he was quite the scrapper as a young man.

Fred would hit him low

Cap’n has no chance

Mr. Roger's comes from the tough streets of his hood

There are some badass dudes in that hood

Cap'n looked like he drank a couple pints of gin a day and smoked a couple packs of Viceroys.

He would feel no pain.

they can have a steel cage match in heaven

with Jim Henson as the ref

Jim Henson abhors violence.
I freaking HATE laziness!!
Geez Hairston...

…if you can’t HIT, you should RUN!!!

FUCK YOU FOR NOT RUNNING, HAIRSTON.
Don't worry

Zuke will either hit a 2 run bomb or into a double play.

Eff you, Hairston
Would he have made it to 2nd??
Easily, if he wasn't lollygagging it to first

I wanted to use that word.

Maybe Geren will bench him tomorrow

Oh right – no game tomorrow

Let's make them pay for THAT!!
stupid Hairston

not on 2nd, dope.

But really

How often do you see any of our players busting it on fly balls like that?

Major leaguers are supposed to run that out

And most of them do. usually it’s only the guys who already have big contracts who fail there.

at least hairston isn't likely to run
What. The. Fuck. Is. Hairston. Doing?
Holy shit

Dies

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?????????
HAIRSTON...WHAT THE F*** IS WRONG WITH YOU!?
Thanks, Hairston

He should be fined a large amount and not play the next game either.

C/mon Hairston. That's some bad baserunning. Jesus.
facepalm

Baserunning worthy of a last place team in Hell right there.

Oy.

Was he on the move?
yes
had about an hour to get back to the bag on a high pop fly though.
Not if he was sliding into the bag as the ball was coming down
Doesn't that kind of, like, explain things then?
not when the ball is in the air for 30 seconds
Damn

The battle of futility continues

I don't think the A's want this game
Battling for higher draft spots, yo

Duh

i missed that... what happened? it must have been stoopid

cause i though there was one out.

running game has taken the A"s out of this game tonight
Advice to Scott Hairston:

When you think you shouldn’t run, run really hard. When you think you should run really hard, don’t.

so has anyone ever seen the Erin Esurance porn I've heard is out there on the web?

(not you Rated R).

no way...really?
it might just be a rumor
2nd law of internet porn:

If you can think of it, someone has made it.

hmmm

i’d rather see the progressive insurance redhead

agreed.

completely agreed.

Cartoon ad porn?

too kinky for me

In the ads where she has the black suit on

she looks like a bug.

Pull him you jackass...

…sit on the bench.

Okay, so he was trying to steal but...

…I’m pretty sure he went into his slide after the ball was popped up. You’ve got to look to see what happened exactly so that doesn’t happen.

(And react to hearing the contact)

Hm, I think I’ll be late to the thread on Friday.

I hope youhave a good reason young man

or a note from your mother…..:-)

oh my .... i saw the replay.
Hairston has been removed
seriously??
oooo, Best Man Bob pulls Hairston

that’ll show them, just like the time he pulled Sweeney…

Should've for not running hard on the fly ball anyway

Then he compounds it by trying to steal second anyway and gets doubled off.

I'm just wondering whether it will have an effect on any other player
Hairston pulled out of the game?

Insane.

On the fly ball…again, how many of our players do bust it on fly balls like that? We should be pulling guys out of the game on a nightly basis, if this is how things are gonna work.

Second….Geren’s the one that sent him on the pitch, so how can you blame Scott there?

Because he made no effort to get back to the bag.
Did he, though?

Was there a replay?

By the time he was about halfway back to first they were already making the out
Please stop defending that sequence

It doesn’t matter how many times people don’t run hard on a fly ball. By the time it’s caught you should be on your way to second anyway specifically because you never know when one will be dropped.

And we don’t know if Geren gave him the steal sign or not. Either way, you’ve got to be aware of what happens on the pitch and at least not slide when you hear contact.

LOL

So then, like I said, guys should be pulled multiple times throughout every game, then?

*smacks forehead*
So...

Will you answer me, or not? 95% of the time guys DON’T run out that ball, just because it dropped once out of a million times he should be?

As for the steal, again, since we didn’t see a replay, how can you blame him for what happened there?

Because he slid for no fucking reason whatsoever.

It was 2 stupid ass plays in a row. He wasn’t even WATCHING the ball when he hit it to CF, he had no idea it dropped.

Except once it did he was going to go for second`

But it was too late

Had he been running hard, he'd have been standing on second base.

Not fully sprinting. Just RUNNING. You know, like you’re supposed to when you hit the ball?

And once more

I’ll expect to see you bashing the next guy for not running out a similar fly ball.

Flip over to the Dodgers-D-backs game. You’ll see it there. I suppose you’ll be having a fit, right?

There’s a .0000001 chance that the center fielder drops that ball. If he doesn’t, then we’re not having this discussion, are we?

Tonight was the reason you run out everything.

Nuff said.

Yeah, it's that .0000001 percent chance that proves why you, you know, follow the ball the whole way
And yes, I will bash someone every time he half-asses it on a ball that's dropped

At the very least, you jog it out and keep your eye on it and be ready to react if it gets misplayed. If it’s caught like it should be, no big deal. If it’s not, your ass better be on second at the least.

That's what happens when you jog to first looking toward the right field foul pole instead of seeing where the ball is
I already answered you
Nope, I mean with something, you know, valid.

Watch the replay, the entire play (Suzuki popping up, him throwing to first for the DP) was about seven seconds. Hairston had slid into second about 3 seconds through the play, meaning he had 4 seconds to get back to the bag. He was halfway or 3/4ths of the way there when the out was recorded.

Thank god for the DVR, by the way

And, you know, let’s also thankg God I’m not the one paying for it…

I count two full seconds from the time contact is made to the time Hairston is sliding into second

That’s enough time to react to the sound of contact being made and see where the ball is. You don’t slide into second that late.

Wow, really?

This is like that dumbshit NFL rule about hitting QB’s. You’re supposed to stop on a dime while running full speed? 2 seconds….2 SECONDS.

Incredible.

Nobody said stop on a dime

But yeah, it would be nice if he didn’t KEEP RUNNING FULL SPEED AND SLIDE INTO THE FUCKING BASE.

Exactly

Stop on a dime? Puh-leeze.

Again

He’d take a couple seconds ANYWAY to stop, gather, and spin around if he’s running full speed when contact is made ANYWAY, so I really don’t see the difference other than risking injury vs. staying healthy.

No, see, it works like this

You hear contact.

You don’t slide.

You stay on your feet.

You reach the base.

You find the ball.

You react to what you see.

Understand?

The difference?

Well, how about being safe vs being out?

Again

He’s out EITHER WAY.

Whether he slides into second OR NOT, because he didn’t slide into second that long after contact is made.

Holy shit, what don’t you understand about this?

You're wrong.

Stop posting.

Oh definitely, yes

I’m wrong because you said so. Of course.

Why do adults decide to act like children in debates like this?

you're wrong because you're wrong

it’s been explained several times. You’re the one stomping your feet and saying no, who is acting like a child?

No, it hasn't been explained

I had refuted every thing up to this point but it wasn’t good enough for you guys.

Look back at the argument. Not one of my posts contained just “No”, or “You’re wrong”.

That was you and flash.

Let’s not let facts get in the way of anything, though.

Hasn't been explained several times, that is
You think that isn't enough time for him to figure maybe he should stay on his feet?

I’m done with this.

Ok

How about you go on a baseball diamond, and run to second.

When you’re about 10 feet to the bag, and you hear contact made at the plate, I’d like to you stop in place, and tell me that was a much better decision than spending 2 seconds (holy crap, still can’t figure that out) to run and slide to a stop that limits the chance for injury.

Really, if Hairston does stop right there, 10 feet from the bag, what are the chances he gets back? He’ll need to take a second to gather himself, spin around, and run anyway, so he’d likely end up in the same place.

And running full speed, remember that.

You're making the dumbest argument ever.
I'm impressed

What insight.

Are you still stuck on that "stop on a dime" nonsense?
Yes

That’s what it seems like you wanted him to do.

Remember, he’s running full speed to second because the steal is on ANYWAY, so his two options are to either stop, or run and slide the extra 10 feet into second.

Nope

You keep missing the third option: running it out and slowing down as you get to second so you can more quckly react to the play.

BUT HE WASN'T FAR FROM SECOND WHEN CONTACT WAS MADE
What. Ever.
That's what you guys keep ignoring..

You think he’s fucking halfway to the bag and he just keeps running like an idiot…that’s not how it went down. He was already close to second, so whether he slows down and ends up near second, or slides into second, it doesn’t make any difference.

Nope
I can play this game too

“Yes”

Incredible what people resort to when they’re proven wrong.

Except you haven't proven a thing

Toodles.

LOL!

Ok then!

ROFL.

This is the last I'll say on this

Whether he’s able to get back to first in time isn’t the point here. I actually agree with you that there probably wasn’t enough time thanks to the ball not being in the air that long.

The point is two seconds should be enough time to figure out “Oh, contact. Better not slide. Run it out instead..” At the least, once he hits the base he can turn right back around and get a head start on going back to first.

Instead, he slid, had to get back up, then find the ball, then start back to first. By the time the ball was tossed for the double play he was just showing up in the picture about halfway to two-thirds back to first when had he stayed on his feet maybe he at least makes it close.

On its own it’s a bad play. Add to the fact he should’ve been on second base to begin with on the fly ball and it looks extra bad.

It was a pop up slide

The slide is not the issue.

The issue here is that he probably didn’t realize that the ball had been popped up, especially since the 2nd baseman or shortstop (I don’t know who) went to cover 2nd initially.

Then, he probably broke off second a second or two too late after he finally realized it was popped up.

Maybe he knew contact was made, but didn’t know it was popped up. For that to be figured out, he would’ve had to stop, plant, and turn around to see what happened, then react and run back to first.

Yes, it was a bad play, but it’s not one that can be blamed on Hairston all things considered.

Remember that they’re also in Chicago, so crowd noise could be an issue as far as hearing guys tell you that it was popped up, and so forth.

(Though he WAS running like an idiot on the fly ball)
Not to be redundant but if he had not slid??

I really don’t understand that part of your statement.

Just commented above

He slid well after contact was made.

Thanks - OK...I just don't get the significance of the slide vs. running to base standing.....

It has to do with tagging up vs. a steal attempt I’m thinking. I just try to get the small points!!

Basically it indicated that Hairston wasn't paying attention to shit.

Why on earth would you slide into second when the ball has been hit? Why didn’t he realize the ball had been popped up? Did he not hear the base coach, or the crack of the bat? Did he not look back?

It was a mental error.

Yeah I got that...and it came on the heels of another mental error made by the same player

very frustrating…..

Again, Suzuki hadn't made contact that long before Hairston slid into second...

I don’t get what you don’t understand about this. If he’s running full speed, he’d have to stop, plant, turn, and run when he’s 80 feet from first anyway.

Either way, he’s probably out. The ball really wasn’t in the air that long, dude.

lucky for me, my TV has a second counter on it.

8:54:43 – Hairston takes off as Dotel’s foot lands to deliver the pitch
8:54:44 – Suzuki hits a pop up
8:54:46 – Hairston is sliding into second base. In the frozen frame, TY WALLER IS FUCKING SCREAMING AT SECOND BASE.
8:54:50 – Konerko makes the catch. You can see that the second baseman has already run to cover first base. WHERE’S HAIRSTON?
8:54:51 – Second baseman catches the ball flipped from Konerko for the out. WHERE THE FUCK IS HAIRSTON? HE SLID INTO SECOND BASE FIVE SECONDS AGO
8:54:53 – Oh, there he is jogging slowly into the view of the screen.

WHY DID IT TAKE HAIRSTON SEVEN SECONDS TO RUN BACK TO FIRST?

5 seconds

If he slid into second 3 seconds into the play, and the out was made 8 seconds into the play, then that’s 5 seconds, at most.

So yes, now you have an argument. Now you could argue that Hairston should’ve gotten back to the bag there, but he was busting it getting back to first and only started jogging once the out was recorded.

Bullshit.

You can see the second baseman bust ass to get to the bag. HE’S THE ONE WHO COVERED FIRST BASE.

There is no excuse for Hairston not making it back. He slid and then stopped. It does not take five seconds to run back to first base.

Well, that can be argued

But yes, you’ve got me now. He probably didn’t realize the ball had been popped up until he got into second, which is most likely why he didn’t get back.

Which is exactly what we have been saying the entire time.

He wasn’t paying attention. Twice in a row.

This is why he was removed from the game.

Like I said above, though.

What you apparently wanted him to do was stop 10 feet before he gets to the bag, plant, turn around, see that it was popped up (this is all going on behind him), and react and run back. All in 2 seconds.

Him using the pop up slide or slowing standing and running into second standing up wouldn’t have made a difference. He probably slid in the first base, because the shortstop or 2nd baseman went over to cover the bag, meaning if he heard the contact, he assumed it was a grounder. Again, this is all going on behind him, and he’s got two seconds to react to the situation.

No.

What I wanted him to do was PAY ATTENTION.

When a guy is running, when contact is made, usually they look to see where the ball went.

If, like you said, he ASSUMED it was a grounder and just slid, then he got fucking deked. Again: Mental miscue.

However, the replay showed, NEITHER MIDDLE INFIELDER was covering second base. Because it was a popup.

Everybody knew this except Hairston.

Again, dude was not far from second when contact was made

So you expected him to stop on a dime, plan, turn around, realize the ball was popped up, and get back to first, right?

I don’t know what you guys don’t get about this — he wasn’t far off from second when contact was made, and since it was very light contact, it’s possible he didn’t realize it was popped up as he was running to 2nd, considering the crowd noise, etc.

And neither middle infielder went to cover second on the steal? What replay are you watching? When does that not happen? He was already almost at 2nd when the ball was popped up, so there’s no way I believe the infielders just stood where they were because they knew it would be popped up.

I have to say one more thing

He was not almost at second when the ball was popped up because nobody’s that fast, not even Usain Bolt. At best he’s probably about halfway there when contact is made and I guarantee you the middle infielders know where the ball is there.

And once again, nobody is saying “stop on a dime.” We’re saying “pay attention and stay on your feet as you get to second so you can react faster than you did.”

Whatever crowd noise there is – and trust me, it’s not THAT loud in the 13th inning after a couple throws to first – anyone on the infield is close enough to hear the sound the bat makes with the ball, even on a popup.

Again, you're main issue looks to be the slide into second

What’s the difference between slowing down and stopping at second standing up or using the pop up slide, which allows to to get to second faster and retreat to first faster?

Anyway, according to the replay I saw, when the ball went up in the air, and Hairston was about 5-10 feet away from the bag. So maybe he made contact when he was 10-15 feet?

Again, if he’s running full speed, it doesn’t make much of a difference, because he can’t stop on a dime so once contact was made, there’s no way he would’ve made it back. The ball wasn’t in the air very long.

There's a lot of ground that can be covered in a second when you're at full speed

I guarantee you he’s not 10-15 feet from the bag by the time contact is made. If that’s the case he’d never, ever be thrown out stealing.

Either way, pop-up slides don’t really save you a whole lot of time compared to staying up. Maybe he had it in his mind that he was sliding no matter what, and that would seem to fit with how locked in he seemed to be enough to miss the fact the ball was popped up.

Anyway, it’s over, I think the debate’s been made clear, and I’m ready to move on.

would some kind soul like to summarize for me whatever horrendous thing Hairston did?
Flyball to center

Didn’t run it out, ball dropped, he was at first instead of second.

Then, he took off to steal 2nd, ball was popped STRAIGHT UP, and he either ignored the base coach, didn’t look, or is just an idiot and didn’t even get CLOSE to the bag in time to not be doubled off.

aha. Thanks, kind soul.

I now understand the frustration.

Patterson should have come in to run for Hairston, then, if Hairston was going to get pulled anyway.

Good point, but assume they wanted to keep Hairston in for offense
Hairston

pulled like a bad tooth!

So E-gon is in.

Who’s our 6th starter now?

I think E-Gon wasn't scheduled

till five days from now anyway, so he’s still on track.

And that's the game folks
Losing to AJ

The ultimate pain.

Remember when Davis was a good OF?

Oh, yeah. That’s right, he’s just fast.

time for Glee!
There has too be something good on tonight.

4-3 for that?

i thought you were zzzzzzz
I thought you went to bed.
I had to stay up for Glee.

I’m a musical whore,

45 minutes in now

I’m not that impressed. It’s OK, but not really grabbing me.

I do love the dude in the wheelchair. At first I thought it was a dopey gimmick, but he totally rocks. Best voice on the show, easily.

had to lose off that asshat's hit too, did we?
Damn to lose it to AJ!

that sucks

SUCKED

PUNKzinskoid.

i am a bit steamed over this one.
i hate that guy
me too.....he's such an a$$
An f-ed up way to lose
What was Patterson doing?
I think he may have been texting someone

and failed to back up the play, hmmmm.

Check his Twitter account (if he has one)

“Hey guys I’m in the…oh shit.”

LMAO

BRB/F8, deep @ wall

Um

What’s with the “defense”?

Fuck shit bitch.

Did it have to be pisszinsky?

We fucking stink.

The Wet Blanket

returns.

What a bastage.

Have a good night everyone
really? AJ? that is just wrong.
so...thats...IT

is it?

I'm just going to pretend that AN is still not working

La la la la la! Wow, this game sure is tied for a long time. Mmmmm…

8-2 River Cats

Listening to that no

yay!
haven't Carter and Wallace tatered?

that’s good news

RAJ took an, um, unusual route there

I imagine his popularity has just taken a hit.

No

He always takes shitty routes to flyballs. He’s just fast enough to make up for it. usually.

I'm out

This was disappointing. On the plus side, I’ll be posting from MN on Friday. Short work trip = just enough time to catch a game in the metrodome. :-)

Have fun.....and represent!!
I'll probably be the only A's fan there...lol
we'll look for you
Theres an A's fan everywhere!
you should grab

a hunk of baggie from the Twinkiedome before it is demolished!

4 wins in a row?

too good to be true.

So who do we pin this loss on?
Drew Barrymore

things were going fine until she was namechecked.

First answer wins.

9/9/09’s loss due to drew barrymore.

It's because there were no pictures.
Lenny DiNardo?
no, he's a discovery

can we trade for him back?

Why?

hmmmm, let me think...

he’s totally hot?

so am I

It’s a wash

blame of the game


Johnny “Poops” McGinty, who should have killed AJ Pierzynski on the schoolyard at age 6 when he had the chance, after the infamous Kit Kat Recess Incident of 1982.

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