The standard and oft-overused line around these parts whenever the Home Nine has done something exceptional goes a little like this: "Who are these guys and what have they done with my team?"
Well if the A's keep this up, they're going to render that phrase obsolete. If anything, our A's have officially entered watchability status. So they're a wee bit tardy. It happens.
Forgive me if I am a little giddy in the wake of a five-game winning streak that has come at the hands of two lineups that would never be mistaken for Murderer's Row, but having been a fan for a long, long time, I know these two things to be true:
Things have gotten so out of hand of late that the A's don't even care if I show up to the Coliseum, as I did last night. (First things first, I stayed for a few songs, ok? Girl's got pipes on her, I'll give her that). I took my 18-year old god-daughter Brittany to the ball game. It's been awhile for her. When she asked where we were sitting, I told her third deck. She said "Oh." Um, yeah. When we got to our actual seats in Section 122, we sat on the end, usually reserved for my niece Christina and her family of four. "We'll sit here until they show up", I said. To my surprise, my oldest brother Ernie came in their place, with his wife and brother-in-law (visiting from Korea) in tow.
Playing the hermano mayor part to the fullest, Ernie came in shouting, and forced me out of my chair. This prompted a visit from Ruth of Guest Services to check my ticket. As I reached for my stub, I asked her, "Do you know who I am? I write for AN. Call Blez; he'll straighten this out."
To witness Williams with a bat would be to watch Ruth with a badge. She moved with the grace of Mays in and out of aisles, making sure everyone was in their proper place. Can't have all those empty seats taken up by imposters.
I kid you not, twice the Ticket Nazi asked to use my brother's binoculars, to check on people in the right-field bleachers. Ernie wondered if she got ready for a game a la Rickey, standing naked in front of a mirror, saying "Can I see your ticket?" over and over. (Not a pretty image, I assure you). Meanwhile, Brittany asked if her uncle to my left ever stopped talking, to which I replied, "Pot, meet kettle."
Ah, but I digress. Allow me to think outside the boxscore for a moment.
The A's simply look like a different team right now. I don't detect a swagger of any sort, but there is surely a hint of confidence building. Not to challenge Matt Holliday's dedication but he doesn't make that diving catch two weeks ago. On back-to-back nights, Orlando Cabrera has jumped on the first pitch of the game for a base hit, and has come around to score. Setting the tone the way a leadoff hitter should. And my colleague Nico hit it on the head when he called Giambi's bases-clearing double a "defining moment".
I also enjoyed this quote:
I know plenty of fans don't buy into "Braden's fearlessness" and "Giambi's clubhouse presence" being relevant to individual or team success, but it was interesting to hear Ken Korach tonight talking about what an impact Giambi has had in teaching/developing a "winning atmosphere" with the young players - meaning teaching them what it means to play to win, keeping on them to play hard and play to win, etc.
Now Ken is a pretty darn bright guy and he's with the team every day - I would hope his observations, especially when he is so vehement, would hold traction with some of the more skeptical folk.
Yes I realize intangibles are nigh impossible to measure but I agree with his Blogness on this one, just as I agreed that a little hustle and encouragement and accountability can make a difference, albeit a small one.
I remember earlier in the year when Taj feared that the A's were creating a losing culture, and I shared the same concern, although I had hoped guys like Holliday and Giambi would counteract that mentality. Well, they're starting to.
Blez preached patience last week, reminding us that the season is marathon, not a sprint. In a perfect world, the big bats that were supposed to alleviate the pressure from the young guns would have come out swinging from the start. It doesn't always happen that way. But as Jack Cust stated after Friday's win:
"I said at the beginning when people were talking about the offense that it just takes time. That's why you have batting averages. It's an average of a full season of at-bats. Guys are going to do what they do."
And suddenly they are doing what they do all at once. Couple that with the A's answering Nico's memo, and you got yourself a winning streak, and more importantly a completely different vibe in Oakland.
A little more of this and we won't have much to complain about ‘round here.
Well, let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Game time is 1:05. Thread to follow.
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Ruth
Always love stories of an over-zealous usher. I went to Camden Yards once, sat in the worst section in the entire park, and decided I’d move to the front row since no one was there and I was too lazy to walk to the better seats.
Instantly got yelled at by usher and told to move back to my seats. We started taking pictures of him every time he booted someone from THE WORST PART OF THE BALLPARK.
Eventually we had enough and moved to open seats in the 4th row right next to 3rd base. Always ironic where you find the sticklers.
SeanR - June 7, 2009
The usher might be an asshole
or their boss might tell them a) the team knows which tickets have been sold, b) the boss can see which seats are occupied in your section during the game, and c) if those things don’t match up, we can find a new usher who can make sure they do.
Not that the asshole usher couldn’t just get off on running his or her little fiefdom, but sometimes it’s the fault of the management, not the frontline folks.
Nick - June 7, 2009
Ruth was fun.
A little too enthusiastic about her work- not that there’s anything wrong with that- but overall fun to watch, especially the binoculars bit.
67MARQUEZ - June 7, 2009
Now I’m imagining you and your niece in the nightclub sequence from Goodfellas…
Nick - June 7, 2009
Awesome.
67MARQUEZ - June 7, 2009
67 is "in construction"
but only because he’s a “union delegate”
What an unbelievable movie. It never gets old.
ohtobe21likehuston - June 7, 2009
Seems to be inconsistent enough that I blame the individual "fiefdom" mentality.
It’s amazing how the whole attitude and atmosphere can change from one section to the next.
I’m sorry, but if it’s a poorly attended game… and you’re still in a section at the same or lower price… and you’re friendly and willing to move if somebody does show up late and want their seats… I don’t see why they should care.
UncleLeo - June 7, 2009
probably due to some ballparks being empty most of the time
Most people know that there will be open seats on the 1st level so it could change their buying behavior if they can purchase a cheap ticket and move down every game.
Damn. I sound like “the MAN” now.
ohtobe21likehuston - June 7, 2009
One thing that happens...
I live in Portland and one of my employee’s is a part time Usher at the Rose Garden. I asked him about this and he says a lot of times season ticket holders in the lower section see someone else in their seat and call to complain.
RuQ - June 7, 2009
Let’s catch the Mariners in June, the Angels in July, the Rangers in August and run away with it after that.
Rated-R Superstar - June 7, 2009
I think it will have to be:
Mariners in June, Rangers in July, Angels in August.
Nico - June 7, 2009
Angels in August was a great play
Nick - June 7, 2009
Very nicely put, mi amigo!
The evolution of the mood on AN as the season progresses is a very entertaining thing to chronicle…from crankiness, to hopelessness, to tepid interest, to full-blown giddiness…it certainly runs the gamut.
I still hold my concerns about this team…especially about what will happen when the young pitching goes through an inevitable and collective down-turn in success and the team actually faces some good pitching staffs for a few series’s in a row (swing through NL West?)
But overall, the most important thing is that the team is becoming interesting and watchable again. When the year began, none of us believed that this team was a sure-fire playoff squad. But we did believe that they’d have enough components to make a few runs here and there and keep it interesting both on and off the field. In the last week, we’ve seen this in full-effect.
For Nico, a “defining” moment might have been Giambi’s double last night…for me, it was watching Dallas Braden sneak up behind Vinny Mazzaro and douse his face full of shaving cream in the middle of a TV interview. Cahill said it after last night’s game…the clubhouse vibe is relaxed and fun again and guys are just going out there and playing. The stat-heads can dismiss chemistry and clubhouse culture all they want, but I’ll just enjoy watching a team that is having fun again…and winning while they’re doing it…
Taj Adib - June 7, 2009
All the young pitchers are pitching well at the same time
which is great — but it won’t be so great if they all slump/wear out simultaneously, too!
For the sake of the bullpen (and AN’s mood stability), it’s probably better overall for them not to synchronize their hot streaks.
Nick - June 7, 2009
They can synchronize their hot streaks all they want...
just as long as they de-synchronize during their individual cold streaks.
Taj Adib - June 7, 2009
I think the key is to be quick to put gio/gallagher back into the rotation when people look tired.
I worry that around 150 innings were going to need to shut some of the arms down. Outman has had a heavier load in the minors so he and Braden should be fine. Mazzaro had his innings limited early so that will be helpful but Cahill in particular has not. You have to think about replacing Anderson and Cahill with gio or gallagher.
Also the A’s should never skip starters on off days. More rest and less starts is a good thing. Finally the A’s should do what was kinda sorta done last night which is pull anderson or cahill and put in a long man when they have big leads.
designatedforassignment - June 7, 2009
Agreed.
Taj Adib - June 7, 2009
Excellent, Taj
And even as you reserve the right to be cautious, you do it in a why that doesn’t even come close to being a killjoy (example: “Relax everyone, it’s just the Orioles”).
I made light of the Yankees going shaving-cream happy earlier this year, but there is something to having a little fun out there. Not that you’d ever have to convince us that such things mean very little without talent.
67MARQUEZ - June 7, 2009
Something that hasn't been mentioned, since it hasn't been relevant:
Isn’t the playoffs a “be careful what you wish for” scenario in regards to the rookie pitchers? For the A’s get to the playoffs, Cahill, Anderson, Mazzaro, Outman will probably have to throw around 170-180 innings each, and then you can’t exactly shut them down for the ALDS. If an October work load on top of a bump in IP already increases the risk of injury…is it worth it? Unfortunately, of course, it’s probably not a decision the A’s will face.
Nico - June 7, 2009
Duke may be back.
And there is time before the trading deadline. Is there a stat better than innings pitched to measure wear & tear?
Batters faced might be nice, since 10 batters in one inning isn’t the same as 3.
MobiusKlein - June 7, 2009
Pitches thrown?
Blicks - June 7, 2009
Perhaps
I’ve heard notions that warmup pitches & such should count, making more innings effect wear & tear.
I’ve heard that intensity of innings should matter – throwing 50 pitches in one inning is harder that 50 pitches in 3 innings.
Are some pitch types harder on the arm than others?
MobiusKlein - June 7, 2009
q.v., Jared Wright, Steve Avery, Mark Prior?
Nick - June 7, 2009
Read my last sentence, Nico.
;-)
But a great point.
67MARQUEZ - June 7, 2009
Good point.
doing a 6 man rotation after Duke returns (or doing it with Gallagher or Gio if they rebound —-I think Gallagher is going to come back up and pitch well) might bode well.
If the A’s aren’t contending, Duke shouldn’t bump anybody out of the rotation, instead keeping the young starters on a strict pitch count.
Blicks - June 7, 2009
I'm not a fan of 6-man rotations.
I believe that’s too cautious and does the starters a disservice due to too little work, even when considering young arms, etc. If Duke were to come back… which I have serious doubts he will, but just for conversation… I’d rather they make a hard decision and either send one of younger guys to the bullpen or (preferably) send Duke to the bullpen. If we’re actually contending, why “fix” what isn’t broken, and Duke’s value is as much or more as a proven reliever.
UncleLeo - June 7, 2009
Mazzaro threw 171 IP last year. He should be okay to go 200.
scromulus - June 7, 2009
That's good, and I notice Anderson is only on pace for 150
(but should increase that pace if blister free), as is Outman (from being in the bullpen some of the time). Cahill is on pace for 180.
Nico - June 7, 2009
180 should be about the limit for Cahill
Nick - June 7, 2009
I suggest one pitcher, one inning for each of the nine innings!
I believe this was a strategy for a team (60’s Cubs?) going into the season.
One won lost won - June 7, 2009
Hah, fail.
I saw “Game time is 1:05” and thought “whaaaa? there’s a game on already?!?!” Yay west coast.
Blicks - June 7, 2009
Speaking of young pitchers is anyone else watching the Brewers/Braves game?
Hanson looks outstanding. Just struck out the side in the second.
OldhamA - June 7, 2009
He's throwing a you-know-what as well
Blicks - June 7, 2009
hissy fit?
bobnothing - June 7, 2009
I meant no hitter, but its over now
Ryan Braun would have none of it
Blicks - June 7, 2009
braves are back on top
chipper jones, 3-3 a double and 2 homeruns
5-3 braves
Wreckonized - June 7, 2009
i still can't believe they got McLouth for not too terribly much
DyeLongJustice - June 7, 2009
And that we didn't.
Nico - June 7, 2009
It woulda been sweet to have him, but where would we play him? Unless we trade Buck, Ry Ry, or Cunningham. His contract is friendly though, so financially it could have fit.
DyeLongJustice - June 7, 2009
To me, there's no problem whatsoever
You can trade Buck or Sweeney and/or send them to AAA until the next injury. Having good players, and no place to put struggling ones, is not, IMO, a problem.
Nico - June 7, 2009
True
I just realized a case in point: Daric Barton.
DyeLongJustice - June 7, 2009
He's a corner outfielder playing CF.
The Braves didn’t give up much for the guy but he’s hardly exceptional.
OldhamA - June 7, 2009
He's not exceptional
but if you played him in a corner OF spot, he’d be pretty good, and better than Buck and Sweeney.
DyeLongJustice - June 7, 2009
Oh yeah he's better than what we've got (though I still think
Buck could be a hell of a hitter), but he’s not a true CFer that hits for power. He’s a rangy corner outfielder that they’ve put in centre.
OldhamA - June 7, 2009
Buck is a corner OFer too.
And I think Sweeney basically is too.
Nico - June 7, 2009
out of those three, Sweeney probably has the best CF defense
but that’s not exactly a compliment. They all can hang out there in center, but that’s probably not where you’re going to want them to be, long term.
DyeLongJustice - June 7, 2009
Yeah they are.
I’m just saying it’s not like we missed out on getting an absolute superstar. He’s a good player, possibly even very good, but it’s not the end of the world.
OldhamA - June 7, 2009
He'd instantly be the best hitter on the team not named Holliday
In that case, I’d be OK with “not quite true CF” defense if it means a 120 OPS+, not Sweeney’s 74.
What I keep coming back to, though… Rick Ankiel.
He’s not getting playing time in STL, and since that whole other thread about Holliday moving is coming up, somehow including Ankiel in that deal would be kinda nice, allowing Sweeney and Buck to play their more natural corner OF spots.
Not as a centerpiece, mind you, but Holliday for Wallace and Ankiel?
mikev - June 7, 2009
Ankiel = all power, little patience, and an injury risk. He’d be nice to have, but just another injury risk for the A’s. I’d do that deal though, just because it’d be nice to have Wallace.
Of course, if we get back in the race, I hope the A’s keep Holliday around.
DyeLongJustice - June 7, 2009
Like I said, he wouldn't be a centerpiece.
But, he’s not really an injury risk unless you consider crashing into the wall.
Still – a league average OBP and SLG over .500 plus pretty good CF defense? Okay!
mikev - June 7, 2009
He's been belted around in the end.
I’m such a jinx….which is why I think the Orioles starter today is fucking awesome. ;-)
OldhamA - June 7, 2009
If anyone is going to the A's game today and can score an extra 12 Pack Cooler
I’d gladly buy it off of you. I’ve been looking forward to this promotion for years, but I just had a baby daughter and can’t make it to the game.
Let me know, if you’d be so kind.
Go A’s.
33SwisherSweet - June 7, 2009
You can have mine.
Email me at lynnz@johnlewisglass.com
islandgirl - June 7, 2009
re: Cust's statement
There is truth to that, but it works both ways, too.
Think back to 1989 and Carney Lansford. He started the season on a tear, flirting with .400 into late May or June. Then, he “compensated” and sucked and was virtually worthless at the plate the rest of the season. His final BA was slightly below his career average.
UncleLeo - June 7, 2009
Wrong year, UncleLeo- it was 1988-
but you’re absolutely right. He ended up hitting .279 season (his career was .290).
He was remarkably consistent in ’89. His average dipped under .300 for the last time on April 22, and reached its peak of .370 on May 25. Carney finished with a career-best .336 that season.
67MARQUEZ - June 7, 2009
Lansford: 15 seasons, 1720 games
Total salary earned as a player: $9.78 million…total
Mark Kotsay: 13 season, 1452 games,
Total salary earned as a player: $44.4 million
…one season out of 13 where Kotsay hit over .300 BA
One won lost won - June 7, 2009
You're right, I was off by a year.
UncleLeo - June 7, 2009
Marty Lurie???
Shouldn’t Marty’s show be on now? I got a ton of static and now the Sports radio programming…
Athletica - June 7, 2009
Stupid Texas Power Rangers are winning right now 4-0 :(
I know the Angels would seem like the tougher team to beat, but I’m still worried about this crew. Plus they just DFA’d Padilla Flotilla
DyeLongJustice - June 7, 2009
yesss 4-2 now
DyeLongJustice - June 7, 2009
Texas Power Rangers
this made me laugh
bobnothing - June 7, 2009
i wish it were an insult
but i’m not sure it’s insulty enough since a) some people like the power rangers and b) they do hit a lot of homers in Arlington
DyeLongJustice - June 7, 2009
Kotsay Homer 4-3
DyeLongJustice - June 7, 2009
insult, not insult
it amused me
bobnothing - June 7, 2009
WP 5-3 :(
DyeLongJustice - June 7, 2009
BIg Papi just had a caught stealing. That man cannot run. At all.
DyeLongJustice - June 7, 2009
Kotsay's back!!
How’s his back?
One won lost won - June 7, 2009
apparently, it's working
he’s the anti-chavez.
DyeLongJustice - June 7, 2009
It's an insult.
OldhamA - June 7, 2009
I echo the sentiments of 33SwisherSweet
If any gracious fan can appreciate the frustration of being a NRAF I would be forever endeared to them if they picked me up a cooler. Just send me an email and I will happily send you a check to cover ALL costs!!
Basically if there is anyone who essentially wants to attend the game for free I’ll send you a delayed payment for the ticket.
ohtobe21likehuston - June 7, 2009
marathon vs sprint
in either, you rarely see the winner move up from last to first. winners tend to start near the front and stay near the front. a late-May, sub-.400 team has to play outlandishly good ball to make the playoffs (unless they’re in the NL West). Not that I’m not out here in the sticks hoping it happens.
Interesting, miffed reaction from Kuiper and Fosse last night to an emailed query about a potential/hypothetical Holliday trade. All they could say was that if the A’s had a chance to make the playoffs a trade wouldn’t happen. They seem to have convinced themselves that this streak of non-suckiness means the A’s are the real deal. Hannahan and Crosby and Rajai are starting—smells like fluky, severe (albeit fun) overachievement.
skutch - June 7, 2009
and Boston was down 3-0 in the playoffs
but won the series. Past results are not always indicative of future events :-)
ohtobe21likehuston - June 7, 2009
albert pujol
had a 2 rbi sac fly
is he that good? lol
Wreckonized - June 7, 2009
Me likey the Albert Pujols. The Dude is more amazing than Barry Bonds.
DyeLongJustice - June 7, 2009
The super charged Bonds was better than Pujols.
OldhamA - June 7, 2009
Better? Yes. More amazing? No.
I know it’s a fool’s endeavor to try and say who has and hasn’t done steroids. But out of anyone in baseball, I’d believe Pujols the most. The fact that (in my mind) he has done all this without steroids is amazing. He WOULD be Barry Bonds if he took steroids.
DyeLongJustice - June 7, 2009
There's no telling
who hasn’t done steroids… or is doing steroids… it seems like the league knows more than they let on and just chose Manny to set the example for everyone… Steroids or no steroids Pooholes has a little ways to go
Porcupine - June 7, 2009
By the way
Mobile posting is now enabled —I’m posting via iPhone.
(I think we’ve created a monster…)
OaklandSi - June 7, 2009
NO WAY?!?!?
I am harder than a diamond right now.
mikev - June 7, 2009
my pants just exploded
like a jack cust the park homer
hm, now to find an iphone
bobnothing - June 7, 2009
I can post on the full AN site with my iPhone, but not on the AN mobile site — and it now won’t let me do the headline — ??
OaklandSi - June 7, 2009
Tease.
:|
mikev - June 7, 2009
HEADS UP EVERYBODY - BRADEN IS ABOUT TO BE ON THE PREGAME.
I’m expecting hijinks.
mikev - June 7, 2009
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