Athletics Nation

WaddellCanseco - December 18, 2009 reply

Carroll loves Mattingly

He is from the same Indiana town that Mattingly is from so he wanted to play with his childhood hero. LOL Now that all the remaining 3b are off the market the name MT is being heard through the net. A backup ss and thirdbaseman. ??? makes you wonder.

Arcman - December 18, 2009 reply

So we need to find a 3B from Holland, Michigan?

Hey!

I’m from about 60 miles south of there. 3 cheers for Michigan…looks outside at a foot of snow, frowns

Wiers103 - December 19, 2009 reply

Where are you in Michigan?

My parents live in Grand Rapids, and my Dad is a hardcore A’s fan. Just so you don’t feel like you’re the only one there who loves the green and gold…

the_rozeboom - December 19, 2009 reply

Grand Rapids?

I’m in the G-Rad right now. Woah. It’s snowing flakes the size of my thumbnail as I type this sentence.

I wish the A's could get a young 3rd baseperson

whose childhood hero was Eric Chavez. I bet that guy would stick around a looong time. Maybe even sign an extention beyond the arby years.

Future Ed - December 18, 2009 reply

me too

i hope we find that guy someday. Maybe he will also be able to stick at 3B, play defense like Chavez, and not have the biggest legs on the planet.

His name won’t be Brett Wallace, and he won’t be destined for 1B or DH, and thus force a good player to the bench.

supermarc589 - December 18, 2009 reply

Do the A's have a B.O. problem or something?

Good grief doesn’t anybody want to play in front of hundreds of fans for a manager that wins at least 75 games no matter what?

When people turn down money and playing time to go play for a team with a lame duck manager and an ownership that is headed to divorce court well….it ain’t good.

So when does Adrian Beltre take less money to go play in the Mexican League?

Long before Eric Chavez could.

Unfortunately, Bob Geren isn't really a "lame duck manager"

He keeps getting contract extensions. And he has a club option for 2011 that will probably be picked up, since I’m pretty sure he should murder the entire Sacramento team and his punishment would be a three-year deal.

thejd44 - December 18, 2009 reply

Wait, "should" or "could"?

Nico - December 18, 2009 reply

Could

Sorry. Geren talk gets me all flustered.

I’ll be good this season though. I have no expectations of winning baseball in Oakland in 2010, so him costing the team games won’t bother me too much.

thejd44 - December 18, 2009 reply

Yeah I was talking about Joe Torre being the lame duck manager

since this is his last year with the Dodgers

Oh, my bad

Is this actually his last year?

thejd44 - December 18, 2009 reply

That's what Torre said

with Mattingly the favorite to replace him.

TWTS?

Daniel777 - December 18, 2009 reply

Yep

That’s what Torre said

The conversation, at least so far as I can imagine it:

BB: Position Player X, come to Oakland. We’ll even pay you more than that other team.

PPX: Well, let’s get these talks started, then. Who’s your best player?

BB: Oh, uh… Mark. Yeah, Mark Ellis.

PPX: Oh.

BB: You know, with that defense, he’s very underrated.

PPX: No, no, you make you a good point. It’s just that… oh, isn’t Jack Cust still there? You know, a guy who can hit some roundtrippers and get me a few runs scored on my résumé?

BB: (whistles through teeth) Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no. We had to let him go. You see, we’ve got Ryan Sweeney and we don’t want anyone else in the outfield setting unrealistically high expectations for him.

PPX: Ah.

BB: Bad for the self esteem.

PPX: Right. Okay, how does the infield look?

BB: Eric Chavez is gonna hold down 3rd for us this year.

PPX: …

BB: Just kidding. Nah, we got Jake Fox, so we’re cool.

PPX: …

BB: Gotcha again!

PPX: Fool me twice, shame on me.

BB: Yeah, no, we have no idea who’s playing 3rd. We’ve asked Beltre to play for a sixer of PBR and a couple of live chickens, so, y’know, fingers crossed.

PPX: That should… go… um… okay, worst case scenario, what happens at 3rd?

BB: All Aaron Miles, all the time.

PPX: Goddammit.

BB: I know.

PPX: Seriously, though.

BB: No, I know, I know. But that’s why we need you, guy! We’ve got some distance to make up now that our offense is about as effective as the Raiders’ and the Mariners suddenly decided to employ people like Cliff Lee and Milton Bradley instead of Carlos Silva and Yuniesky Betancourt.

PPX: Yeah, that’s a bitch, ain’t it?

BB: So whaddaya say, huh? How about you come play for us, and we pay you a little extra for that noticeable drop that’s gonna come as a result of playing in the AL Petco Park?

PPX: Alright, finish this sentence for me: “We are competing for ________.”

BB: Contractual reasons. Bud Selig won’t let us declare this year and next a “mulligan.”

PPX: (dial tone)

Joey C. - December 18, 2009 reply

Oh, and

If Jamey Carroll is your regular starting 3Bman, your team sucks.

Amen.

Yeah, but how bad is a team with no starting 3B?

grover - December 18, 2009 reply

We may find out in 2010

Extreme infield shift

We’ll play the LF in very shallow.

worldblee - December 19, 2009 reply

I'm guessing that the A's really want to keep DH open this season

…and not have Jack Cust in the OF. That’s the only thing that would explain non-tendering Cust and offering 2 million to Carroll.

DDroney - December 18, 2009 reply

And you're exactly right.

As much as is feasible, each roster spot is to be manned by someone that has a shot at being a cog of the future. Don’t be surprised if Davis and Ellis get traded at the deadline, either.

Then why not also play Petit, instead of Carroll,

save $2mil/year and find out what Petit can do?

Nico - December 18, 2009 reply

Good question.

The only explanation I can offer is that “bench” is not a position that’s particularly important to leave open. In fact, if you want to make sure young players fill every starting position, make sure there’s no bench positions available for them to occupy.

Okay people only 989 more posts to prove Nico wrong!

989 comments of beer on the wall,

989 comments of beer. Make one more, Jamey comments galore, 988 comments of beer on the wall….

Nico - December 18, 2009 reply

Why anyone would want to play at our current facility unless they

are getting a substantial amount more is beyond me.

I love the A’s but the sooner they leave the Coli the better for the team. Be it San Jose (My 1st choice) or a new park in Oakland (probably not going to happen)

Trainman - December 18, 2009 reply

984 comments needed

Trainman - December 18, 2009 reply

Dear Michael Taylor and Chris Carter

I love you

Regards,
Daniel777

Daniel777 - December 18, 2009 reply

i'm so excited

i just can’t hide it

I'm about to lose control

and I think I like it

This^

lets not start blanking each others blanks just yet

9Custs - December 19, 2009 reply

Thanks, Mr. Wolf

darooster - December 19, 2009 reply

ther's a wolfe in the blank house?

Future Ed - December 20, 2009 reply

....

Jesse?

cityplANner - December 19, 2009 reply

I'M SO (sob) SCAAAARED!

God, that show was awful.

Via MLBTR, the Diamondbacks made Kelly Johnson an offer

The reporter guessed the deal was worth around $2MM for a year. Even after a down year, at that price he seems like an excellent low-risk/medium reward. Very bad last year, but had a .249 BABIP as opposed to his career mark of .313 (which is what James predicts for him next year; ~.750-.800 OPS). I understand that not all inquiries are reported on, but for Oakland not to explore him as a 2B/3B/OF would be foolish.

NateHST - December 18, 2009 reply

Can he play 3B at all?

He played SS in the minors for Atlanta

Then made a switch to 2B. UZR has him as below average at 2B, but last year he was basically average. He might not win any awards for his defense at 3B, but I’m sure it would be passable and not at all Jake Fox-esque.

NateHST - December 19, 2009 reply

I'm a little worried about it being passable

People don’t tend to do things they’ve never done before very well, but’s it’s hard not to like the bat.

jeepers - December 19, 2009 reply

I've always been a Kelly Johnson fan

I think he’s absolutely worth that money, though I don’t know if there’s a real fit for him in Oakland.

thejd44 - December 18, 2009 reply

At 2B, Oakland has quite a bit of depth

I didn’t make it clear in the post, but asking what would it hurt to ask him if he’d be willing to make a switch to 3B. And hell, I’d rather have him on the bench as a backup IF than Aaron Miles. Can’t play SS, but neither can Miles.

NateHST - December 19, 2009 reply

That would be an incredible steal

keeping in mind that he’s still only got 4-odd years of service time, and thus a team would be able to invoke arbitration for 2011 if he actually does anything useful in 2010.

He’s by far the most interesting non-tendered player, IMO (well, other than Cust himself, I suppose).

PaulThomas - December 18, 2009 reply

So Kelly Johnson is available for the same amount we offered Carroll,

but we haven’t made an offer to Johnson?

Kelly johnson

Whats this with another ball player with a girl’s name? Besides that I can tell you Kelly Johnson would be a wonderful pick up for the A’s as a DH, 2b, corner outfielder. Last year he was hurt much of the year and when he came back he was used as a backup player for the braves. Since he was the starting 2b for my strato team I can tell you he averages about 270 hitter with a 350 oba with about 20 homerun power. His defense is just average but serviceable. Think of Adam Kennedy type of defense.

Arcman - December 19, 2009 reply

Jamey Carroll is a .270/.350 hitter with 2 HR power.

Kelly Johnson is a .270/.350 hitter with 20 HR power? And Johnson is 8 years younger? Tough call on who to offer $2M to.

But Carroll is supposed to be more than 1 Win better on defense

Do you know which game?

If it’s one of the late-May weekend games, I might be able to go see it.

7th Game of the World Series

You GO, Jamey!

His defense is not average

It’s below average. UZR/150 at 2B is -7.4.

kenarneson - December 19, 2009 reply

How would it likely play at 3B?

Too many guys have the name Kelly for it to truly be a girl's name, I think.

thejd44 - December 19, 2009 reply

There's a great site where you can chart it.

here

Prior to the 1940s, Kelly was almost exclusively a male name, though not a particularly common one. As a boy’s name it peaked in the 1960s but was already eclipsed by Kelly as a girl’s name, which was huge in the 1970s. By 2000, Kelly had almost disappeared as a boy’s name (for new babies, that is), and was very much in decline as girl’s name, too.

iglew - December 22, 2009 reply

my dad's name is kelly

9Custs - December 19, 2009 reply

Bobby Cox appears a tad daft, imho

Well, if we're going to make an offer,

I think you’re going to have to chip in most of it. Law student’s “salary” doesn’t go real far here…

OK, speaking seriously, we don’t know if the A’s have offered him. He’s fairly under-the-radar, and remember that the Scutaro offer wasn’t leaked until after he had already signed with Boston.

neither does college baseball player's salary

since i don’t play for USC

Yes, and the author of the article wrote:

“Not sure on the details, but we’re guessing it’s a one-year deal worth $2 million or so.” which seems to me like wild speculation. It could be more than that, though likely not that much more considering he made $2.8MM last year and wasn’t that good.

NateHST - December 19, 2009 reply

PT, you think he can play 3B?

I won't pretend to know

but even if he’s just a decent-hitting utility guy a la a younger Mark DeRosa, that’s still worth the relatively cheap salary that he’ll be earning.

I was gonna say I like Johnson

uh, well, I mean wether he can play 3b or not.

What's this on the sidebar about Cust going to the Giants?

Jack in the National League? They do have tape of him “playing” OF right?

The Royals and Tigers make more sense but it’s hard to imagine those two teams giving him much money.

Of course if the Evil Empire will give Nick “Glass” Johnson over 5 million someone should be able to pony up 4 million for Cust. (how about the A’s?)

Jack Cust playing outfield for the Giants every day

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

richwol1 - December 18, 2009 reply

Sabean will open the bank

Knowing sabean he will offer Cust a 5 year 60 million deal. LOL If Sabean wanted Cust why didn’t he trade for him. Thats right Sabean is afraid to trade with Beane.

Arcman - December 19, 2009 reply

Because he guessed the A's would non tender him so he could pay with cash and not prospects?

I mean, I don’t think the Giants want him. But yeah.

bobnothing - December 19, 2009 reply

Wanted to say:

“So they wanted to double the amount they were paying to guys who winning teams laugh at the thought of starting?”

Sadly funny, sadly true.

Joey C. - December 18, 2009 reply

This was expected

When the A’s were winning every year a lot of players were willing to look past the crappy stadium, small fan base, and tiny payroll to play for a winner.

Now that the A’s have lost three years in a row, the A’s are finding out what it’s like to be the Royals. Until the A’s get another 90 win season or a stadium in San Jose, they will fave to massively overpay to get a free agent to come here.

Threepwood XX - December 18, 2009 reply

OK, so I've thought about this

and, um, I got nothing. It’s inexplicable that one would offer guaranteed money to Carroll and not Cust.

PaulThomas - December 18, 2009 reply

Especially when you have Aaron Miles on the roster

And while Carroll is probably better than Miles, for the purposes of this A’s team, they’re basically the same guy.

thejd44 - December 19, 2009 reply

Well... maybe Ned pissed off Billy during the meetings

and to screw with him, he offered a guy he was going after a little more money in the hopes of causing the Dodgers to up their offer and wind up paying more for a guy Billy never really wanted.

DMOAS - December 18, 2009 reply

grasping at straws most likely

but stranger things have happened, i guess.

1000 posts is going to take a lot of filler

and a lot of small paper cranes
(one)

It's going to have to be sort of like a telethon...

with a bunch of foam peanutty filler thrown together to provide the desperate illusion of entertainment.
(two paper cranes)

Here's a short rap about Jamey Carroll

If your utility man is Jamey Carroll
filling gaps in the infield is like shooting fish in a barrel
the cowering bass look overhead at death staring back at a one eyed mass
with a long schlong that echoes shrapel’s song into each scaly ass
(three paper cranes)

How about a limerick?

There once was a man named Carroll
When he started, his team was in peril
On defense, not stout
On offense, an out
And watching him made every fan sterile

brutal

how about first-person…

i’m a free agent named jamey
i could go to the a’s, they will pay me
i looked at their stadium
dug deep in my cranium
and i told ned colletti “L.A. me”.

Yes

Sterile!

thank God I don’t watch Dodgers games

Quality work, people!

a little more East Dublin than East LA, but quite alright.

east pleasanton actually

close enough

Ahem

Jamey once played in the mountains
Couldn’t hit, so he hired an accountant
When the Town offered pay
He snubbed them for L.A.
Now bench-ridden, he sits, millions countin’

Also yes

Did you know that Abraham Lincoln

was born in a log cabin that he built with his own two hands?
(four paper cranes)

Thomas Jefferson invented the pylon

Nick - December 19, 2009 reply

James A. Garfield

turned into a cat that loves lasagna.

Oh, but there really is a fun fact about Garfield.

He was ambidextrous and could write with either hand. Not only that but he could write with both hands at the same time. Not only that but he could write with both hand at the same time writing Latin with one hand and Greek with the other. Now there’s an awesome party trick.

iglew - December 22, 2009 reply

Goshdiggity, it's gonna take forever to get this up to a thousand comments.

Good thing Evil Don said I’m gonna get paid a dollar a comment.
If I comment fast enough, I’ll get paid better than I do for stealing shopping carts from one store and selling them to another.
(five paper cranes)

Good thing Ricky and Julian started AN.

Why they’re interested in a BASEBALL team all the way down in California, fuckifiknow.
(six paper cranes)

I am pretty sure Evil Don is dead.

67MARQUEZ - December 19, 2009 reply

I miss him so much.

67MARQUEZ - December 19, 2009 reply

Aahhh shaddup!

67MARQUEZ - December 19, 2009 reply

Stop fighting, all of you!

Gaijin_Suketto - December 20, 2009 reply

somebody get me some pepperoni!

Silence Infidel

(seven paper cranes)

We're up to 50

(Well, 51 now.) That’s definitely gotta be worth something, considering it’s Jamey Carroll.

day-to-day - December 19, 2009 reply

Jamie Carroll not worth thinking about

Amazing that this insignifigant garbage player is getting this much attention. Just shows how weak the A’s off-season is so far.

BlueMoon - December 19, 2009 reply

Its not that Jack Cust isn't worth 4.5 million (probably isn't though)...

Its that there are SO MANY option at DH this offseason.
about 20+ names…..VLADDY anyone?

ryanmoser - December 19, 2009 reply

Cust > Vlad

thejd44 - December 19, 2009 reply

how much do you think

that vlad is going to get?

more than Cust.

and not be worth it.

Future Ed - December 20, 2009 reply

I agree.

Vlad will likely get Matsui money, but even Matsui is not quite as done as Vlad.

thejd44 - December 20, 2009 reply

This.

Way too much poopy pants around her re a fairly crap player

jamie at 14

looking up at his idol Mattingly from his home town saying to himself one day I will play next to you. The man crush never goes away and when the opportunity comes up he jumps at it. The love blossoms into more than a crush and one day Torre walks into the locker room at the wrong time and opps its another holywood story. Jamie wakes up from his sleep and thinks to himself. Yes I will sign with the dodgers today to be next to my true love donnie.. And the story begins.

Arcman - December 19, 2009 reply

Jamie Kotsay > Jamey Carroll

cityplANner - December 19, 2009 reply

This

We have a winner!

yes yes yes

Cust better the Vlad? Yea....ok...good luck with that

Injured or not….Vlad is still a hitting machine who doesn’t strike out 200 times a year. The guy can flat out hit the ball….cust is done in oakland..

ryanmoser - December 19, 2009 reply

Uh..

Cust, 2009: .342 wOBA, 1.0 WAR
Vlad, 2009: .343 wOBA, 0.8 WAR

Also Vlad is broken and more expensive and likely to be even worse this year.

So what were you saying?

That's not exactly a startling difference there

And if Cust is snatched away by another team, Vlad isn’t a terrible option. I’d rather overpay for Vlad than waste money on Jamey Caroll

cuppingmaster - December 19, 2009 reply

Uh....

Cust: .417 slg
Vlad: .460 slg

richwol1 - December 19, 2009 reply

.357 OBP vs .334 OBP

This is silly --

Vlad clearly was the better offensive force, but is now a shell of himself. How much of a shell answers who is now better.

Exactly.

jeepers - December 19, 2009 reply

No, Nico, he clearly was not -- if you're talking about 2009 alone.

Vlad’s OPS was .794 to Cust’s .773. As it was already pointed out, Cust’s higher OBP counters Vlad’s higher SLG.

Their “basic” stats were close, aside from Vlad’s empty batting average, but pretty much all the advance stuff agrees that they were almost identical, and it’s silly to think that Cust was nontendered and people are talking about Vlad as if he’s a commodity that should be sought after.

Now, if you meant “Vlad clearly was the better offensive force” in the context of the guy once being pretty much the most feared right handed hitter in the league, then yes I agree with that.

Yes, that's what I mean

The issue is whether Vlad has fallen from “better than Cust” to “equal to Cust” to “worse than Cust” — only the last part is a question regarding what each has left in the task; the rest is pretty apparent.

Well, sure, Vlad WAS better

But what he did in 2004 really isn’t part of the conversation going on here.

If you had to have one guy as your 2010 DH, Cust is the better guy to have even before you factor in the contract. Cust is a better offensive player right now.

thejd44 - December 20, 2009 reply

Spartacust vs. Vlad the Impaler

Tossup.

vegAN ryAN - December 19, 2009 reply

Like mikev said, the difference in OBP makes up for it.

danmerqury - December 19, 2009 reply

CHONE projects Cust to be roughly 9 runs better than Vlad as well.

lenscrafters - December 19, 2009 reply

Vlad for 3.5 million?

mrod - December 19, 2009 reply

No thanks

anyone see this?

Link

I’m not sure where else to post this, I never look at the fanposts/fanshots, so I figured it’s better in a thread. The Giants claims A’s moving to San Jose infringes upon their territory. I had heard that the Giants felt this way, but now there are lawyers involved sending letters to the commissioner and such.

fps31520 - December 19, 2009 reply

eh, this isn't unexpected

But to be clear: it’s not the Giants themselves, but the city attorney of SF writing this. Either way, I expect the Giants to express their “grave concern” to the commissioner using lawyers as well. Just a bunch of posturing.

cuppingmaster - December 19, 2009 reply

Yeah

I’m not sure what SF is thinking on this one. It’s about as absurd as SF trying to block a McDonalds from being built in San Jose because it would potentially take away business from their McDonalds. Especially when Oakland’s old stadium (and any new one they might build there) is quite literally right across the bay from the Giants’ stadium. No foundation.

DMOAS - December 19, 2009 reply

Giants position = plz give us some money so we'll shut up

worldblee - December 19, 2009 reply

So we share the same position, eh?

Giants position = SHUT UP

Signed,

28 other franchises that want more $$$ in the MLB revenue pool

I've heard that San Jose has been "Giants territory" for a fairly short amount of time

thejd44 - December 20, 2009 reply

Coco Crisp

What happened to the FanPost?

Who's Jaime Carroll?

how many more until 1000s

ryanmoser - December 19, 2009 reply

Deleted. Didn't meet fanpost requirements,

and was not verified as true.

Gotcha

What?

“Some guy is my cousin” isn’t credible?

Talk about strict.

Next you’ll tell me that the voices in my head are wrong about the pending Cahill for Pujols deal.

De'quan Harris - December 19, 2009 reply

wow

you all are silly for that one. Not everything needs a link. this is a blog not some serious website. you will feel stupid when it beco,es official anyday second now.

Harris is right

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/coco-crisp-nearing-agreement-with-athletics.html

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/coco-crisp-nearing-agreement-with-athletics.html

You may have been right, but that wasn't the point.

Besides, can’t a blog aspire to be a “serious website”?

danmerqury - December 19, 2009 reply

link

why so quiet?

De'quan Harris - December 19, 2009 reply

Wow

$5MM seems like a lot for a one-year deal.

Just a guess

But I’d assume that the post was deleted because A) It didn’t meet the 75 word requirement for a Fanpost, and 2) There was no link or anything involved.

I’d post it again, with the link, and not a bunch of OMG OMG OMG GO A’S GO A’S GO A’S stuff to get it to 75 workds.

Any relation to Dequan "Smallpox" Randolph?

Wonderful.

Now I can replace my, “HEYYYY, BOBBY!” chjeer with the ever-loved, “HEYYYY, COCO. SNAP, CRACKLE, AND POP OUT!” I was afraid I’d have nobody left to actively despise at A’s games anymore.

I have a feeling there'll be plenty of room for hatred. Start with Pennington and Miles.

Yeah, about that.

With all the talk about giving Petit a chance, I think it’s too early to count out Pennington. I’m calling it here. He’s going to surprise the whole entire lot o’ ya.

He does have a nice arm.

brian.only - December 19, 2009 reply

So does Crosby

Jeez, Wads.

Why’d you have to salt that wound? I miss the glass bastard already. sniff

and he can hit pitchers who've never read a scouting report.

That has to count for something.

Usually a good 100 K’s and a DFA, but technically… that’s something.

I never said I didn’t believe you.

I don't believe you.

Hairston

I hope he’s traded for a SS to make room for Carter/Taylor.

Or Hairston is traded for a SS/3B

or Hairston and Davis are traded for a 3B

I think

Davis becomes the 4th OF/PR again.

I'm hoping for Coco - Rajai - Sweeney for the all-defense OF with Hairston traded.

They can keep Buck as 4th OF, and bring up Cunningham when someone gets hurt. Taylor would have to mash at AAA to force his way to Oakland.

Beane

I’m glad he’s being active in the market.

Given that the team is now worse AND more expensive than it would have been by just keeping Jack Cust,

I’m not.

There's an outside chance Crisp is a 2 WAR player if he's the full time CF

but I don’t love paying him 5M

I can see him as a 2 WAR player playing LF

CHONE has him -3 Batting RAA. His UZR projections are somewhere between +4 and +8 for CF, which could translate to +10 for LF. His baserunning has been worth about 4 RAA not including SB/CS. That’s a 2.4 WAR player.

+5 mil

CaliforniaJag - December 19, 2009 reply

So, in other words...

NEW AND IMPROVED! YOUR TWO THOUSAND TEN OAKLAND ATHLETICS!

I'm sad that Rajai might be traded

A Crisp/Rajai/Sweeney OF would be insanely good defensively. Best in the bigs?

Congrats on the scoop De’quan (thumbs up)

Bradley/Gutierrez/Ichiro is pretty redonkulous.

We'd have all three +morethen10s

And Bradley might not be a +10 anymore.
Win: Oakland.

But then where does Taylor play later in the year?
(Gets a woody from our massive OF depth)

If I were Wakamatsu, I'd put Saunders in LF and DH Bradley.

Saunders could be a +8 or something

WaddellCanseco - December 20, 2009 reply

Pretty sure Bradley is ticketed for DH, all things considered

They can’t seriously see Griffey as anything but a stage prop at this point. It means they’d only really need to sign a 1B, and there are plenty of those kicking around.

PaulThomas - December 20, 2009 reply

I'd empty the farm for Adrian Gonzalez in their position.

Start with Morrow and Triunfel/Moore and add whatever pieces you have to. I might even include Saunders and go with Langerhans in LF.

Do that and sign Holliday

Might as well go broke or go home.

vignette17 - December 20, 2009 reply

There is almost no possible package of Seattle players that I would accept for Adrian Gonzalez

if I was in San Diego’s position. I’m not sure their entire remaining tradable farm system adds up to his surplus value over the next two years.

PaulThomas - December 20, 2009 reply

3B

Where he played for 26 seasons with the Milwaukee Rockets.

+1,000,000,000 if you get the reference.

If they trade Raj I'd be seriously bummed.

Hairston yes, Raj no.
Didn’t Crisp sit out most of last year?

brian.only - December 19, 2009 reply

Both shoulders operated on

He was supposedly going to be OK by October-December.

Yikes.

I’m not sure what I’d rather hear—dual shoulder operation, or just plain sucked.

danmerqury - December 19, 2009 reply

For apathy toward research...

does anybody know what’s going on with Blazi?

I don't think we're going to make it to a 1000 posts

because all the heat has switched over to Coco! May this Jamey Carrol post RIP