Now Media Relations director for the Fresno Grizzlies, Noah Frank was with the Chicago Cubs in 2008, then in the Texas League (with the San Antonio Missions) in 2009. As a result, Noah had a chance to become familiar with Jake Fox, Aaron Miles, Bobby Cassevah, and Beau Vaughan, recent A's acquisitions through trade and the Rule 5 drafts. Here is Noah's "up close" analysis of these newest additions to the A's puzzle...

Greetings, AN. I am a long-time A's fan, raised in the East Bay, and have been working in professional baseball the last several years. I know Nico from my time in Berkeley, and when I saw the recent flurry of player movement involving players that I have recently seen first-hand, I thought I might be able to contribute some insight and shed some light on the newest members of the Green and Gold.
Specifically, I worked for the Cubs in '08 and was in charge of compiling the Minor League Report, so I got a heavy dose of Jake Fox that year. In '09 I worked as a Media Director in the Texas League and saw both Bobby Cassevah and Beau Vaughan up close. I also got to hear what all the Big League scouts thought of them in the press box, so I feel like I have a pretty good handle on what they have to offer.
In 2008 Fox, after a slow start in Iowa and a demotion back to AA-Tennessee, came on strong and tore up the Southern League at ages 25/26. He really turned it on late, going .324/.383/.676 with 9 HR in July and .362/.465/.695 with 10 HR in August. While admittedly old for AA ball at that point, it seemed like he might have finally found his groove after under-achieving throughout his minor league career. Sure enough, he came out red hot in '09 with Iowa, going .409/.495/.841 with 17 bombs in just 45 games, earning his promotion to the bigs.
A classic late bloomer, my discussions with our baseball ops guys of which older Cubs' prospect would still have a productive career was always between Fox and Micah Hoffpauir. While I loved Hoffpauir (and still do), they always seemed to have a soft spot for Fox. While the power has always been there for Jake, the plate discipline has finally come along for the ride the last couple years. Fox's highest year-long OBP had been .357 in the Florida State League in '05 before his turnaround in '08 and '09.
Fox also offers the A's another interesting piece -- he is a right-handed power hitter who has consistently performed better against right-handed pitching, both for average and power, throughout his career. His ability to be at least serviceable defensively in the corner outfields as well as the corner infields should allow the A's to move him around and shape the rest of their lineups according to specific pitching matchups. All in all, I like the pick-up, although I'm unimpressed with Aaron Miles in almost every way, and wish the A's could have gotten a better second piece.
As for Cassevah and Vaughan, I saw them both a couple times last year in the Texas League. Cassevah was really impressive for much of the year, and was on quite a roll when he came to San Antonio as the proud owner of a 12.2 inning scoreless streak. However, he did not retire any of the six batters he faced that night, giving up four hits and walking two, watching all six runs score.
That led to a poor finish for Cassevah, as his control seemed to get away from him late in the year. It put a damper on what was, overall, a very nice year out of the 'pen. Prior to that game in SA, he carried a 2.11 ERA and a .216 BAA with better than a 3.8:1 GO/AO rate. The biggest question mark for the now 24-year-old will be his BB:K rate. If he can keep the walks down, he is a good enough control/ground ball pitcher to be effective in middle relief.
Vaughan bounced back-and-forth between Double-A and Triple-A, looking far more impressive in Frisco than he did in Oklahoma City. While he wasn't bad at the higher level, he was even more dominant than his basic numbers showed in the Texas League. In 18 appearances he was 3-0 with eight saves and a 2.35 ERA, limiting opponents to just a .198 BAA. He allowed only a single homerun and walked just three while fanning 20 over that span with a good mix of pitches.
While he's a pretty big guy (6'4" 230 when drafted, and he's added weight since), and he's certainly an old prospect at 28, Vaughan could be a nice piece of the bullpen puzzle for the A's. In addition, he brings a Swisher-esque personality that Oakland has been lacking since, well, the departure of Swisher. It will be nice to get a little more color back in the clubhouse.
I hope that gives you a little better feel of what to expect from the newest Oakland A's.
- Noah
P.S. After watching Midland dominate the TL this year (with and without Chris Carter), once all the hitting joins the young pitching I think it may be the A's year in 2011.
0 recs | 45 comments
Can Fox play 3B at all?
WaddellCanseco - December 13, 2009
He can physically stand there with a glove on.
But I mean, I could do the same.
mikev - December 13, 2009
He is supposed to be able to, just very poorly.
Seb - December 13, 2009
How poorly?
If he’s -8/150 or better, he’s probably their best option there. Well even if he’s a bit worse than that he’d be their best option arithmetically, but I wouldn’t be able to watch him without heart problems on all ground balls.
WaddellCanseco - December 13, 2009
After watching him...
…with the Cubs, he didn’t go out there and embarrass himself everyday. He could be serviceable, but I wouldn’t look to Foxy as a long term solution.
LeSaboteur - December 16, 2009
Cassevah
Not a glowing report on him. The pick was not a great addition to me. Maybe the angels will not want him back and the A’s could hide him in AAA. I don’t see him making the cut at the majors.
Arcman - December 13, 2009
If he isn't a prospect, then why bother with keeping him in AAA?
A’s have plenty of bulllpen prospects.
WaddellCanseco - December 13, 2009
AAA
Could gain control and be another Jeff Gray but I just don’t understand why the A’s picked him unless they think the angels will not want him back.
Arcman - December 13, 2009
Noah's comment on Miles supports
What I suspected – that taking him was probably the Cubs’ condition for the A’s to get Fox.
OaklandSi - December 13, 2009 via mobile
Right, which makes the cost of Fox even more expensive
Gray+Morla+Spencer+$1.7 million+roster spot (Miles)=Fox
faninphilly - December 13, 2009
Well they can cut Miles whenever they want so that roster spot is still available if they
need it.
WaddellCanseco - December 13, 2009
I think that without Miles the Cubs would have demanded
more valuable players than the three they got.
OaklandSi - December 14, 2009
+1
Gaijin_Suketto - December 14, 2009
I dont think Beane will lose sleep over this
Gray is 28, he wouldve likely been headed back to AAA for reliever depth. A’s just got Cassevah and signed Hernandez, have demel, meloan, hrod, carignan (if healthy), marshall, blevins, kilby as other reliever options.
Morla hasnt pithed in a full season league and will be rule 5 eligible next yr.
I didnt like giving up spencer, but OF/1b is a loaded position.
MagicMike23 - December 13, 2009
I have a feeling the Gray Fox trade will be forgotten soon enough.
WaddellCanseco - December 13, 2009
I dunno, it could go on for Miles.
mikev - December 13, 2009
Who knows, in a silent way, this could be the birth of the cool, new A's
Ray of Lite - December 14, 2009
My joke kind of blew, I realize
Ray of Lite - December 14, 2009
hey' this team could easily have Miles, Davis in the lineup
and maybe Coleman coming up?
bobnothing - December 14, 2009
As long as they don't trade for LaTroy
WaddellCanseco - December 14, 2009
you wouldn't be jazzed?
bobnothing - December 14, 2009
It wasn't that bad of a joke...
It had a decent beat, and the horn parts were nice…
I give it a 76, Dick! (Clark)
Gaijin_Suketto - December 14, 2009
I put the Clark in there,
because one time someone thought I called them a dick and started a flame war…
Gaijin_Suketto - December 14, 2009
that and anyone under 25 probably never saw American Bandstand
Gaijin_Suketto - December 14, 2009
you mean quickly
as that trade jumped the lazy dog?
Future Ed - December 14, 2009
If he can jump over a dog,
Fox has to be agile enough to play third, right?
Gaijin_Suketto - December 14, 2009
Can he jump a shark?
PaulThomas - December 14, 2009
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy!
mm__ mm__ (sideways two thumbs up)
LoneStranger - December 14, 2009
But he has more power from the left side
* emphasis mine
No, actually he hasn’t. His Minor League lines are:
vs. LHP .316/.369/.552/.921
vs. RHP .291/.363/.543/.906
over 1,839 AB
In 2009 he was better against RHP, but it is based on only 160 AB pretty much out of this world anyway.
elcroata - December 14, 2009
Some more details about his splits vs LHP/RHP
He does have better ISO versus right-handers (.253 vs .236)
He has waaay higher BABIP* versus left-handers (.348 vs .309)
He does have somewhat better strike zone control (K/BB of 2.35 vs. 2.48) and somewhat less infield pop-ups (11.7% of fly balls vs. 13.4%) versus left-handers.
It seems he is swinging more out of his heels when facing right-handers (proportionally more home-runs, more strikeouts, more pop-ups) and has somewhat more leveled approach against left-handers.
*Has anyone noticed that minorleaguesplits.com uses “wrong” BABIP formula? “Different” is probably a better word. So far I have mostly seen the (H-HR)/(AB-HR-K+SF) one being used.
minorleaguesplits.com uses (H-HR)/(AB-HR-K), removing sacrifice flies from the equation. The difference is not a big one (especially for, say, Kendall?), as it increases BABIP by some .005 to .010
elcroata - December 14, 2009
It's also important to keep in mind that we still have to regress observed platoon splits toward the mean substantially
That amount of PA in the majors would be adulterated by about (sorry, don’t have time to look this up in The Book right this second, going from memory) twice as many PA’s worth of a league-average platoon split. So his actual estimated difference from league average would be only 1/3 as large as the observed split.
Even if he was in fact better against RHP so far in his career, he’d have to have some kind of comically insane split (like 100-150 OPS points higher against RHP) for it to be more likely than not that his true talent is better against lefties than righties.
PaulThomas - December 14, 2009
Speaking of which, are you convinced by
Ronny CedeƱo’s reverse platoon split yet? I know people used to say it’s a small sample size and he’ll regress, but he’s maintained it for five years now. At what point do you say it’s for real?
Here’s his OPS differentials (RH-vs-RHP – RH-vs-LHP):
2009: 061 (in 376 PA)
2008: 097 (in 236 PA)
2007: 441 (in 80 PA)
2006: 080 (in 572 PA)
2005: 232 (in 89 PA)
2007 and 2005 are clearly flukish, with small sample size, but the fact that he’s consistently posted the milder split year after year makes me think it’s for real.
iglew - December 14, 2009
The Book says that righties require around 2,000 PAs against LHP for statistical significance.
Anything less than that, and you’re better off assuming he’s even.
danmerqury - December 14, 2009
Sorry
It was actually pretty rude to write this before first thanking you for your willingness to share your knowledge about these three players with us.
Thanks.
elcroata - December 14, 2009
Great info, thanks
I wrote a post in the Cust mega-thread about Fox’s reverse platoon split, but only because I had no idea where to find minor league splits. Who knew it’d be at minorleaguesplits.com? I’m retarded.
CaliforniaJag - December 14, 2009
Thanks for the updates!
DeJay - December 14, 2009
2010 Prediction
Miles > Booby Crosby
:0)
MMunoz33 - December 14, 2009
Miles will have bigger boobies than Crosby?
Well, at least he’s juicing. Too bad the juice doesn’t help plate discipline.
Gaijin_Suketto - December 14, 2009
Awesome, thanks for the scouting reports, Noah.
Definitely good stuff to know.
danmerqury - December 14, 2009
Wait. We got Vaughan and Cassaveh, but the latter is the Wild Thing?
Will Vaughan at least get to wear #99?
The Dogfather - December 14, 2009
Petit, Hannahan, Crosby, Miles...
MMunoz33 - December 14, 2009
Crazy thing is, Hannahan is clearly better than any of the others.
with the exception of maybe Petit.
Blicks - December 14, 2009
he also doesn't play shortstop
Future Ed - December 14, 2009
Thanks Noah
:-)
Daniel777 - December 14, 2009
Fox's age
It looks like he didn’t reach AA until his 4th year in pro ball, at which point his age became a mark against him. That despite the fact that he didn’t OPS under .800 once after the first half of 2003, his age 20 season. I wonder why the slow promotion early in his career? Does bad defensive slow a guy down in the lower minors?
DDroney - December 14, 2009
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