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Open Thread: Playoffs Day 1 (cont)

Colorado Rockies vs. Philadelphia Phillies (completed)

Cliff Lee helped get the playoffs off to a boring start (unless you like one-sided pitching gems for the favorites), as he tossed a complete game six-hitter, allowing just one run in the ninth. He also singled and stole a base. No, I'm not kidding. Jimenez had a rocky fifth and sixth (get it? get it?) and was charged with all five runs. The Rockies never had a chance in this one, and they need to pick up the bats against Hamels tomorrow (they will start Cook). Yeah, they're kind of in trouble.

Game 2 tomorrow, same 11:37AM start time

Minnesota Twins vs. New York Yankees - (in progress)

Our very own traitor Nick Swisher has just put the Yankees ahead, after Mr. Clutch tied the game at 2. Yankees ahead 3-2, the game is going to the fifth inning.

And in the nightcap:

St. Louis Cardinals vs. Los Angeles Dodgers - 9:37 PM ET - 6:37 PM PT

Cy Young candidate Chris Carpenter will be pitching against newcomer-to-the-playoffs Randy Wolf, who had a solid season for the Dodgers with very little run support. The Dodgers faltered down the stretch, but because of their hot start, they still managed to hang onto the top spot in the National League.




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bbg knows playoffs
Sabathia dealing - as usual - ooops a little hit there
By our very own ocab!
There have been so many players that have come through the A's organization

we should be able to take some credit for a portion of any post season win!

The A's like the official AAAA supplier of the major leagues.
so true......

Oakland A’s – supplier to the WORLD of baseball

I think that's overstating it slightly.
It was a joke....of the hyperbolic kind...

kind of like calling an event between the national league and the american league the “world” series….

Kinda....without the rest of the world being involved.....yeah!

or like when spain thinks it’s so important and big and manifestly destined that it forgets it has neighbors who share the continent with them and so spaniards go around spain calling it europe but they don’t include portugal or france or even albania in that europe? oh wait, spain doesn’t do that!

i don’t know what i was thinking. here, let me change the subject with this completely unrelated song: oh beautiful for spacious skies, for amber waves of…

tee hee
What?

which part? the obnoxious sarcasm? or the lyrics to a song called “america?”

The first part.

i’m just hungry as hell and i lost my feed. they are actually unrelated but they both make me punchy about metonymy.

You were exagerating for comic effect

therein lies the humor

well

Blanton – Phillies
Eithier – Dodgers
Giambi – Rockies
Swisher – Yankees
O-Cabs – Twins
Holliday – Cardinals

any more submissions?

I think we decided last night we could almost make a whole team!

johnny damon. it’s been a long time, but it was the A’s who taught him how to hit.

Matt Stairs - Phillies

unless he isn’t on the postseason roster?

+ wasn't Jimmy Rollins born in or lived in Oakland?

does that count?

Rollins

He was born in Oakland.

curse you Billy for not drafting him
1996 Draft

Rollins was taken in the second round. I don’t remember who we took in the second round or if we picked before the Phillies did in that round, but we took Eric Chavez in the first round.

was Chavez considered a SS then? or was that in high school?

was Chavez drafted out of high school or college?

was Chavez considered a SS then? or was that in high school?

was Chavez drafted out of high school or college?

stupid double post

either AN or my computer was buggin out.

Chavez

I don’t know what position he was drafted as, but I think he was taken from high school.

that is what wikipedia says

but there is no info on what position he played in HS. I couldn’t find his high school position with a google search.

AT Bbaseball almanac for college it says: none

but no info on HS records

my computer thanks you BBG
I was thinking of you!
Then I thank you also :-)
you didn't have to post it like you did, but you did, but you did,

and I thank you.

O-cabs is just good for your playoff team

Your regular season team…. not so much

Eh he was pretty good towards the end of his time in Oakland.

Granted many wanted him hung, drawn and quartered (or y’know out of the lineup, whichever was easier) before that hot streak.

That headline on the side is funny

“Cliff Lee Hurls”

Joe Mauer should launch one right now.
Oh shoot.

I’m missing the WBNA Finals.

WNBA Finals

I’m going with the Fever tonight.

You're a sick puppy, 'Star.
Seriously.

WTF?!

You’re gonna end up being some sick, degenerate bookie, working for the mob.

HEY, A-ROD.

YOU’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT.

yeah!

what happened to being the October choke artist?

I lost my feed!
Someone carry her.

Of, feed. Never mind.

Down go the twins.
Well, that was fun while it lasted
they love playing from behind
do we dare try to be optimistic with a team we don't follow and don't know too well??

I haven’t a clue how they do in situations like this!

well they were 3 games out with 4 to play.

for starters.

and then there was yesterday.

nice one Liriano

The Twins are going to need some serious metrodome magic to win the series.

no longer exists in the playoffs

well not lately (0 for their last 7)

in the Dome

really? surprising.

They won Game 1 of the '02 ALCS.

Since: Lost Game 2 of same series, lost both games of ’03 ALDS, ’04 ALDS, and ’06 ALDS.

and the thread empties.
Hi

Hi, I’m still here.

me too!

for now. soon I will be gone, when work is over. enjoy my company while you can ;-)

me too.....

Do I have a big “L” on my forehead??? Don’t answer that!! ;-)

I'm going to take my time

Posting about the Dodger Game. Like everyone else in LA.

Ha, just turn up half way through
Fuck The Yankees

…and Derek Jeter and that obnoxious, over-the-top ballpark.

agreed

minus the salty language but I agree.

Tastes good with soup.
Did I miss anything interesting in the second game? I've been, *shudder*, outside

Nick Swisher inside the park HR?

Jeter has been his usual amazing, utterly obnoxious self

Matsui had a HR, A-Rod a rbi single, Swish a rbi 2b.

don't you mean

Jetersus?

So if Minnesota has Football Jesus

New York has Baseball Je-ter-sus

sounds like he's part dinosaur.

rawr!

a well-placed rawr.

still nice to see.

Did Swisher pull up his Yanks Jersey to reveal an Oakland one underneath?

Or is he going to wait to the WS to do that.

It will definitely happen, I saw it in a dream.

Or maybe Matt ‘I heart Oakland’ Holliday

Last year

Matt Stairs ‘to Oakland’

I heart Matt Stairs.
I lilke him, too
Like this very much!! LOL
Girardi told him to always keep it under his bulletproof "I LOVE NYY" vest.
TIME FOR DENARD SPAN TO MAKE THIS A 1 RUN GAME.
Totally the right idea.....
Nothing to do with baseball

But this is weird

(it’s safe for work, btw)

And for those who desire a closer look...

You Tube Delivers

I'm not sure if it's better or worse,

but I don’t have sound at the computer I’m at right now and that is fucking frightening.

Imagine a really baaaaaad version of "Why Do Fools Fall in Love"
and, um, ew:
I can only imagine Mischa, my huge hulk of a Bouvier, getting through my legs without one or both of us falling over!
I didn't read any of the text - just wanted a gander at this strange "sport."
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
How is the bullpen?? Since NYY is gonna use theirs?
Isn't Joba 'BEST STARTING PITCHER EVER' Chamberlain in their bullpen?

I hear their closer is useful, too

I want to say like, really bad.
Can we hope for that??
oh yuk, i get homw from work and the yankees are ahead
Hi

How are you, OakA’sHoney?

hi rated-r, i'm great

how are things with you?

Good

That’s good to hear. I’m okay.

sorry about cal and the raiders
Football Season

It totally sucks from both angles.

maybe try rooting for 49ers or Vikings?
49ers and Vikings

I don’t hate either team, but I don’t care for either team. I can’t root for anybody else other than the Raiders.

good, stay loyal, it's honorable : )
Cal

As far as they go, I’ll feel a little better if they beat UCLA on the 17th. That would make us 4-2 and then we have Washington State. That’s an easy one. After that, we have Arizona State on the road. That’s our weakest road opponent.

It's horrible,

But in the last six years, my football interest has waned and waned. I can’t invest any emotions in football. The Raiders eat them and spit them out at my feet, chewed into bits.

hey kids

so how is the day in baseball going?

TWIB.

How about that?

twib?

that’s what i bled?

that’s why i’m (in) bed?

that’s what irma brought?

That's why it's (the) Blues?
The Wives In Boston?

In that case, Jamie Kotsay is a TWIB.

Twins Win In S?
bugger, that one doesn't work. disregard
well, as long as the Twins manage to beat the Yanks,

TWIB will have started out pretty decent…

Kinda depends on what you expected from this day in baseball.....
true true.

let’s try for a Twins comeback, shall we?

We were kinda there when it was 4-2 Yankees....but now....Twinkies need to get something big goin' now.
Why, hello.

More baseball!

The first observation I had: Liriano’s fastball is down to 91? Wow.

He's not having a good game.....
Yikes.

I guess I haven’t really seen him in a game after that TJ surgery a couple years back, but he used to be regularly around 94-96. He’s lost all effectiveness, sadly. He was pretty awesome, too.

Holy crap, Jon Rauch.

Your Gameday picture scares me.

Jesus, that shit's not right

And I thought Mark Kotsay always looked fierce

That hanging curveball scares no one, however.
do i have permission to say something bad?
Depends.

Bad ugly, or bad naughty?

Is it too early

To start throwing at Yankee hitters?

Is it March again?
FUCK THESE YANKEES!!!!!!!

and not in the good way

All of the whining about "we haven't won in NINE years!" pisses me off.

Go cry me a river, New York.

i really really really hate them
That wasn't the bad thing you were going to say, was it?

Because that wasn’t bad. Not by a long shot.

well i say lots of naughty things but i try not to swear
Were you tuned in when the commentators were talking about how much $$$$$ they have spent on salary

without any post season success….If we (da A’s) had just a little of that cash – oh what we could do!!!

That rumored deal to send Billy Beane to the Red Sox would have been frightening.

For the AL East. For all of baseball, actually.

hold me
Yeah, I'll take Billy over any Greek God.

Much less the Greek God of something as mundane as walks.

but what if it were for Hephaestus?
or Athene? She's pretty hot.
psh, Nike's way hotter
Well, Athene is the Goddess of Heroic endevor, and I think that suits the A's more than

Victory

That was a few years ago, right?
Nah, probably a decade ago.

Maybe a little less than that. The deal breaker was that Oakland wanted a then-minor league Kevin Youkilis. Boston said no.

it was 2002, I think.

And if I remember correctly, the deal was pretty much set — the A’s would’ve got Youkilis, and DePodesta would’ve taken over as GM — but then Billy backed out. Decided he preferred the challenges of the A’s limited payroll and everything. Right?

Was it?

I probably misremembered. It was at least 2002 or earlier, though, because it made it into Moneyball.

Yeah, I remember it being in Moneyball.

Also, I paid absolutely no attention to baseball prior to 2002, and I quite clearly remember being upset that Billy was leaving, so I’m pretty sure it was ’02. Oh, that Billy, what a joker… making us all think he was leaving… but no!

Billy can never leave.

Forst too. There were rumors that Forst interviewed for the SD gig, but the A’s shot them down. I’m glad.

John Rauch is teh suk
He threw four pitches last night.

He can’t be tired. He just sucks.

Ugh, when is the next playoof game on?
playoof?

I need to go home.

Isn't it on right after this one?
Yeah, I think they're pretty much just rolling over one after the other
I've seen that typo before

and I like it. We should just start calling them playoofs… after all, that’s usually what happens when the A’s get there…

ouch

not “my” A’s :)

you mean the A's of the mid 70's and late 80's?
yeah those ones

well not so much the late 80’s, they had a couple of oofs

I was kind of thinking that
That was my word!!

Next one is in like an hour or so

you can keep it :-)
I was just laughing b/c I made the same typo a few days ago!
I know : - )
You have to include smiley faces – Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : → : -] : -}
Wow, I never realized how bad Minnesota's rotation is.

This is a playoff team?

SP Scott Baker
SP Carl Pavano
SP Nick Blackburn
SP Neutered Francisco Liriano
SP Brian Duensing
SP Jeff…Manship

that is teh suck

as cityplanner would say.

call me when the next game is on, i can't watch this anymore
what's that number again?
let me check with travis
you forgot your number and only he knows it?
i'm at his house, arizona is so warm

he says the house phone is 976-STUD

Well I already knew that.

We talked for hours last night.

oh was that you? his grandfather loves phone sex

he’s always pretending to be trav

In my mind it was Trav.
867-5309 e - yine
That song will never die.

Ever. I swear, it’s written in every bathroom stall in the country.

yep, that's stuck in my head now

minor moral victory, joba has been demoted to the pen.

except for he probably is a better pitcher out of the pen

too true. but i hope it makes him feel small anyway.

I have no problem with this sentiment
agreed
Actually, I don't know why I find him so unpleasant

It’s rare that I find athletes repellent – mostly, they’re just trying to do their job – but there’s something uniquely irritating about him. See also, John Lackey.

his celebrations after outs perhaps?

his stupid flat billed cap.
his fat head?
his uniform?

Can I go for all of the above?

Though, I have no problem with people showing emotion after getting outs – I think it adds to the whole spectacle. Taunting, obviously, is a bit off, but still. I’m pretty psyched when I block a shot in our eight a side soccer game.

Or to use a more appropriate analogy, I do a little lap of my house every time I put a press release live

it depends on who is celebrating sometimes
yeah, that's true enough

and how big a deal they make of it, but yeah. Excitement is fun, on the whole, even if it’s sometimes against a team you like

the mold on his hat, too
Get out your mirrors

HERE COMES DA COKE!

Put away your mirrors

DA COKE IS GONE

that was a hell of a ride
In this economy

The rocks are smaller

I want a million locusts to rise out of the ground and make Joba's life a living hell.

That dude sure loves his bugs.

that made me laugh
Alright

this games suck and work is over. I’ll “see” you all tomorrow, I hope the next game goes the way the majority of AN wants it too.

Peace Out

Buh Bye
Back now

And it was going so well for the Twinkies… for an inning

Only three pitches out of seven were in the zone - And Melky Cabrera managed to miss them all
Also - Cabrera is a better defensive outfielder than Swish?

Now I really want the Yanks to fail

If this game continues, I'll be 0 for 2 on my predictions/hopes for the day
never pick with your heart
and i watched the sharks game last night too. i never learn.
Is anybody watching the next game?? or just waiting for this one to be over?
just switched

jeez. cards threatening already.

What channel is the next game on?

Aren’t they all on TBS?

I have the TV off as I don’t want to waste electricity watching a Yankees procession

TNT for now

But I think it will switch back to TBS as soon as they’re finishing the gloating

Oh nice, I shall switch it over, then. Eat my ratings, Yankees!

Or words to that effect

So

I guess posada knows why he isn’t starting at catcher tomorrow now.

Why? I don't know
cuz of the passed balls early
Oh, I missed those. I don't like Posada, either, the BlueJay coldcocking prick
Siddown Holliday!!
matt holliday, still with that faraway look in his eyes, spitting out sunflower seeds
does. not. care.
Thinking of what might have been in Oakland

(Hawaii)

damnit belliard!
i hope we're not 0-3 today
i know, it is disheartening so far
it'd be OK if there were good games
I'm rooting for the Cardinals on this one

I have decided that it’s the least unpleasant WS winning option

are we rooting for the Dodgers or Cardinals?
dodgers
if it weren't for Holliday, I'd have no qualms w/ rooting for the Cards

as it is now, I’m torn

Well, let's not forget the Rafa Furcal Signing Circus last winter...
that turned out well for the A's
I'm kind of leaning towards the Cards

but that’s just b/c I think La Russa is a great manager – but then so is Joe Torre when I think about it. I just remember the Dodgers as A’s killers in ’88 (but that was a long time ago).

come on man you're in LA

Dodgers! If they get in the WS, are you gonna go?

Cardinals

I picked them to win the National League.

care to wager on that?
Gambling

Hey, I am not of legal age for that activity.

i guess that's true, when do you turn 18?
18

I turn 18 in December.

no gambling, but you can get married in a red state
Red States

You can get married when you’re 18 in all red states?

i don't know about all

but on the whole, it seems like they have younger consent ages

you are not legal age for most activities
it doesn't have to be for money, you know
I got your wager!
Whoever can beat the Yankees...

Oh wait – wrong series -

where did summer go? it is cold and almost dark out already
Summer

That ended when autumn began sometime in September.

I know... It's warm outside during the daytime, but once it gets past four, it gets cold in a hurry

As I found out to my detriment riding home without a sweater this afternoon

i may have to turn on the heat
My appartment faces South, so it's still pretty warm in here

we’re not quite at the heat-on time of year at Nothing Towers yet

my house has little insulation

i’m a wimp

and were still in Daylight Savings

for another 3 weeks.

that's going to suck when we turn back the clocks
I love retro nights

oh, time change

Aka

when I go into Hibernation til mid February.

yea, maybe catch up onthose netflix that have been sitting in my house for 3 months
I play that game too!! I went to the one at a time plan and mostly watch online stuff!
hey that works 2-1 dodgers!
Golden State Warriors

Watch the Golden State Warriors in preseason action against the Los Angeles Lakers and join us in the open thread.

no more bay area sports pain

i already watched the sharks yesterday.

San Jose Earthquakes

They’re playing FC Dallas tonight.

are they any good this year?

or are they rebuilding too?

hahahahahahaha.....holliday
WOW - this guy is getting lit UP
carpenter?

he’s could win the Cy Young. he was already named comeback player of the year.

I have not followed the cards at all - so I don't know these things.
What's his story?
TJ had him out last year

not Tijuana

Ah......like many a good pitcher now rehabbing for the year
Actually sorry I lied.

Just a series of injuries have kept him out basically all of ‘07-’08.

Well - I woulda never known the diff.
was good, started with the blue jays in the late 90s

then had serious arm injuries the last two years. now back this year.

the Comeback Player of the Year award is odd.

I’m still slightly bitter about a few years back, when Ellis had a great year after missing the previous season (because a certain shortstop ran into him in spring training), but then Giambi won the award after coming back from… sucking the year before. Not a serious injury. Just being awful. Woo, congrats G, you didn’t suck this year like last year!

sorry. I think Ellis just needs to win something so I can get over all these bitternesses I’ve been harboring.

yeah i think it should go to the injured only too

but I don’t think there are rules. Did Thomas win it while he was here?

hmm. I don't remember.

[wiki] Looks like he was 2nd to Thome.

lame

Thome was the same deal — he just sucked. Thomas’ career was basically over before he came to Oakland.

I totally agree with you. He was very deserving of that award in that year.

Let’s not get into this – b/c it inevitably leads to those east coast bias conversations which just irritate me no end!!! Ellis is one of my favorite players on the team. He should have won a GG, too IMHO.

are the dodgers hitters this good? or is this pitcher just bad right now?
I think it's part of the city wide LA steroids policy

see also, the LAAAAAAAAAAA

oh hai everyone.

1. I haven’t been on AN in far too long.
2. Unsurprisingly, istillhatemattholliday.
3. Go Dodgers!

PAM!!!! So good to see you!
You woulda loved mikev's shirt at the tailgate.....

he “fixed” his holliday shirt. It was pretty good.

so that whole makemenothateyoumattholliday thing never quite worked, huh?
I think I hate him more now.
I liked him when he was on the A's... not so much anymore.

I don’t hate him, and I don’t NOT like him, but I don’t actually LIKE him. We have a complicated relationship.

You're just not that into him.
did he tell you you were made of poop?
Oh great, my roommate's boyfriend is over

crashing around and talking in his loud voice

tell him shush - you're watching a very important game!
Actually, I don't have the tv on. I'm in my room, sorta doing some work

(mostly posting here) with the radio on

JK, then!
I might just tell him to shush, anyway
roommates suck
they do?

man, you need to hook me up with some of your old roommates…

I quite like my room mate, and I don't even dislike her boyfriend

I’m just in kind of a ‘bit of peace and quiet, thanks’ type of mood, really

i guess i've always preferred to live alone

glad when college roomie phase was over

i only had a roommate for my freshman year
Oh, if I could afford to live alone?

Absolutely, I would.

This plenty is plenty spacious, though, and our bedrooms are at opposite ends, so it’s mostly no bother

huh

I had multiple roommates all throughout college, then lived w/ my girlfriend for almost 4 years.

Moving down to LA, I have a roommate again, but I don’t see her too much. I don’t think I’d be comfortable living alone.

i remember being 4 years old and wanting my own place
so did you get a treehouse?
your parents prolly felt the same way
i'm sure they did with all those children
it just takes one
i have brothers, i'm sure it was them who sent them over the edge
i'm thinking this game is gonna be 12-10 or something
dinner time, maybe i'll grill up the rest of the turkey burgers

anyone having anything good?

probably going to fry up some trader joe wontons in a sec

no green onions though. damn.

A bagel, an apple and a pomegranate
things found in a deli

things with holes
things with seed
things that make up a poor dinner

Just as well I'm the one eating it, then
the $25000 pyramid!!
pasta w/ steamed brocolli, basil tomato sauce and some gorgonzola cheese thrown on top

dinner!

Can I come over?
Ah, damn.

I was hoping for a crazy 9th-inning Twins comeback that I missed. Oh well.

good thing you didn't hold your breath
They gave us a two out mini tease

but that was it, really

Apart from the Light towers

And the acres of parking spaces, you would never know Dodger Stadium exists.

and the displaced poor people
the saga of Chavez Ravine really makes me mad

it’s why I can never truly root for the Dodgers.

Even so, it wasn’t them that kicked out those poor Latinos. It was the city of LA when they had redevelopment plans for new modern public housing. Of course, that was in the 50s and all the development community had to do was fund a challenger for Mayor that claimed the incumbent was a communist for supporting public housing. Incumbent loses, public housing shut down, but now we have this huge plot of land we kicked poor people out of and nothing to do with it.

I know! Call the Dodgers!

You read the dodger move west in some class too?

Wasn't Ry Cooder the guy behind the Buena Vista Social Club documentary?
That's all you had to do in the 50s. Accuse someone of being a communist......

I’ll stop here for fear of getting all political in here.

Councilmember Hahn (who's son went on to be mayor before Villaraigosa)

actually put modern artists and their pieces of art on trial before the LA city council, trying to prove that they had “communistic influences”. Pure show trial. It proved nothing and drove all respectable art in LA out to Venice where everyone was poor so they didn’t care what you were doing.

So many people had their lives ruined under the same threat
Oh, absolutely.

It’s a section of our history that’s been swept under the rug, which is more than unfortunate. Things are starting to come out, thankfully.

A real rough story

Political, but with its share of drama is the history behind Los Angeles water rights.

I am all for a fair trade, the Raiders for the Northern California waters.

Chinatown - the movie - a great one on this subject
except it happened in the 'teens, not the 30s.

But the 30’s are prettier

hee hee

“teens”

The coolest thing about the whole Owens Valley saga

is that Once Mullholland opened the waterworks, he had a big news conference at one of the main reservoirs on the outskirts of the San Fernando Valley. Thousands of people showed up to look at so much fresh water in on place. When he got to the microphone, all he did was point at the water and say “There it is! Now take it!”

For all my contempt of what he did, that’s pretty bad ass.

a further discussion may not be so helpful, yes?
D'YA think Furcal wouldn't play with us b/c he knew we weren't probably gonna be in the post season??
i think he was using us as a bargaining chip

to drum up interest so it looked like he might actually sign with us, so the dodgers would agree to his contact terms

I stopped feeling bad for us after seeing what he did to the Braves.

Wren actually had a signed offer sheet sent to his agent. The thing was in the bag.

serious

that was the craziest “negotiation” i have ever heard of in the offseason

that's a good place for a single

not with the bases loaded, he must think he’s in Oakland (psst, matt, it is california, but not oakland

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