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Open Game Thread: Game 108 - A's at Red Sox

The A's open a three-game series in Boston tonight with Justin Duchscherer facing Tim Wakefield. 

The A's hope to begin August on a better note than they ended July, as the team has lost 10 of 12 games since the All-Star break to fall a game under .500.  If the A's win today, they'll be 54-54 at the 2/3 mark of the season, with exactly 54 games to play.

Perhaps the passing of the non-waiver trading deadline with no additional moves for the A's will help the team to re-focus and play better then they did at the end of July.

The A's offense will receive a much-needed shot in the arm today with the return of Frank Thomas from the DL.  Big Hurt had posted a .933 OPS in 106 plate appearances for the A's before injuring himself on May 27.  Although Big Frank isn't at 100% yet, he's absolutely owned tonight's starter Tim Wakefield over the course of his career with 7 homers in 53 at-bats, good for a whopping .717 slugging percentage.

Frank's return also has the effect of bumping Jack Cust out to left field, which might not be as bad you think...

Stat(s) of the Day - notice how much better Cust has hit in LF than as a DH: 


G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG
2008 - Jack Cust as DH
38 137 21 25 3 0 7 14 30 69 0 0 .182 .333 .358


G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG
2008 - Jack Cust as LF
60 188 30 49 7 0 12 35 45 65 0 0 .261 .401 .489

Cust has an .890 OPS in left field and a .691 OPS as a DH in '08. That's a difference of .200 OPS points.  Now, obviously that sample is small, and the true gap in Cust's hitting when playing the field vs. DH'ing isn't nearly that far apart.  But his OPS was 40 points greater when he was playing the field vs. DHing last year, too, and it's common for players to hit worse when they DH than when they get to play the field.

Frank Thomas, practically a career DH, is the rare exception.  He's one of the few guys who can be projected to hit exactly the same as a DH at this point in his career because heck, that's all he's done for years.

So, perhaps having Cust in left field isn't such a bad thing, if it's the difference between having two .800 OPS hitters in the lineup (Cust and Thomas) versus none (Cust at DH). It's even more tolerable with the outstanding defense of Gonzalez in center and Sweeney in right.  If we retain only one of our free agents, I'd hope that it's Thomas, for exactly that ripple effect he creates.

Here's tonight's lineup, L-R-L all the way through.  It's amazing how much better Big Frank makes it look, just by pushing everyone else into a better spot. Barton was activated today, too:




 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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cargon

if he was hitting 3rd and cust 5th, they will have a chance

Nah, don't like that
woooooooooohooooooooooooo!!!!!!

finally, my team is in town.

here’s to Duke painting corners all night.

on resigning Thomas

if Thomas wants to and feels healthy enough to play another season, he is going to be on the A’s. He continually talks about how he never should have left the A’s, etc and it’s clear he enjoys the clubhouse atmosphere here more than anywhere else. I’m sure he would be willing to take another pay cut to be with the A’s at least one more season, it just makes sense on both sides.
Besides, the A’s already have the youngest team in baseball, if we didn’t have one of the older guys I think our average age wouldn’t be old enough to drink!!!

I'm right with you

Another part of the appeal of Thomas to me is, you know what you’re getting. If the A’s brought in an outside guy to DH or play the field a bit – say, Juan Rivera of the Angels or Kevin Millar of the Orioles, both of whom are free agents probably in the A’s price range – it’s impossible to be 100% sure how they’d mesh with the guys or whether they’d like being here.

Frank is a first-ballot HOFer who has twice signed a contract to play for the league minimum for us. I love him. He’s probably my favorite A.

Re-sign Frank for 2009 and tell him he is only to JOG and TROT
Hell, if it is on the ground, just walk back to the dugout.
i may be in the minority, but im glad to see barton back in the lineup.

im sure bankston and conrad are nice guys, but he is the one to prove he belongs.

Unfortunately even though it is the Red Sox, us in Sacramento will be forced to hear that Barton

is back in the lineup, since it won’t be on TV to see.

SuSlu on today's moves...

Link

    Recap:
  • Andrew Brown to DL (biceps tendonitis)
  • Daric Barton activated from DL
  • Gregorio Petit recalled
  • Joey Devine likely to be activated Saturday
  • Tony DeFrancesco and Tye Waller exchange base coach responsibilities
I didn't think Geren had it in him to move DeFranceso off of third base, or was it

Billy’s idea.

Billy's.

Has to be.

sounds like a good move

I’m wondering if I’ll be able to get this game on TV (I’m still an NRAF until mid-August)...if not, it’s mlb.com audio time

I like the move, at least until Waller makes a questionable call them I wont like it.
FINALLY!!!

I have nothing against Tony D, but he needs more time to learn the league before setting up camp over there.

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!
hey, anyone hear that manny ramirez got traded yesterday to the dodgers?
You have got to be joking. I hadnt heard. (jk)
Is it me or does just having Big Frank

in that lineup instantly add about 1000% credibility?

By my estimates

1022%

+100%

maybe not 100% because the line-up has Crosby!

Does anyone know how Dan Meyer is doing in AAA?

Whats his chances of being called up? Does he still have a chance with us at all???

He's done quite well over

the last six or seven starts. He will definitely be a call up these last couple months. We need to figure out what we’re doing with him.

Someone had specific stats for his last start in a recent post…

Thanks!!!!
from another post
Last five starts for Meyer 8.0 IP 2 H 0 ER 0 BB 8 K
4.2 IP 9 H 4 ER 0 BB 1 K
7.0 IP 5 H 0 ER 2 BB 8 K
8.0 IP 5 H 2 ER 3 BB 2 K
6.2 IP 6 H 2 ER 1 BB 7 K

Total
34.1 IP 27 H 8 ER 6 BB 26K 2.09 ERA 0.96 WHIP

From: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Dan%20Meyer&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=434159

And for the totals a little mental math (so it could be wrong).

“Loyal? I’m the most loyal player money can buy.” – Don Sutton

by vignette17 on Jul 31, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Are we there yet?

Dammit! 20 more minutes!

Comparing Manny to Jack

Well, they both play left field poorly . . .

Here's to a happy August.
This is my only comment tonight.
Calling Frank "practically a career DH" is a pretty silly thing

Since for his entire White Sox career, he had played more games at first than at DH. According to baseballreference.com, he has 1284 games at DH and 971 at first base, and since leaving the White Sox he’s played 324 games, all at DH.

Furthermore, Frank has been significantly more productive at first base in his career (this, however, could be more relective of the fact that his prime years were spent as a first baseman): .337/.453/.625 at first, .277/.396/.512 at DH. That’s from retrosheet, so it doesn’t include 2008.

I’m not saying Frank should play first or shouldn’t be out there DHing or anything. Just had to correct a couple faulty assumptions about him.

Frank has played less than

a hundred games at first in the last ten years.

He's still played almost 1000 at first in his career

Which makes him not a guy who has only been a DH. He’s still played something like 40% of his career games at first.

I'm actually excited for a game against the Red Sox.

It’s amazing what seeing Frank Thomas in the lineup can do.

Hey look everybody - it's an almost real lineup!

Grr…Put a healthy Chavez in there at 3B and it IS a real lineup.

HAHAHA a healthy Chavez not this year in all likelyhood.

maybe this time next year the deadline move will be activating the A’s new 1B for the rest of the season.

i like the first 6 in our lineup...
Woo hoo - we didn't strike out looking even once!!!
(gotta find your victories where you can)
Looks like the same A's to me, lol
Pretty exciting game thread we got here...
Oh, I guess it is 4pm there, huh?

Not a good baseball time.

1st inning combined: 23 pitches, 20 for strikes
My Guess About Cust is that he faced more righties:

When playing LF.

Let's Go Frank!!!!

Man he looked rusrty there!!!

Frank Takes It OUTTA The Park!!

Foul…

Boston radio announcer

“He’s just freakishly large…”

I love it.

“The freakishly large hurt”

Glad they weren't talking about Randy johnson

Freakishly large big unit

Google image search.

Do it!

Yuo could tell he truly

meant it, too. He compared him to NFL ref Ed Hochuli—”His shirt’s too tight…”

Wow an 8 PITCH AB!!!

That was a mini rally right THERE!!!

Victory!

count it.

9 according to gameday

1 fewer than the whole 1st inning !

Damn 9 Pitches Is Like Two Runs!!!

Somehow, although the score is 0-0, that walk feels like it put us in the lead.

We should be allowed to play baseball

with a handicap.

Wow!!!

Car Gone paid attention to Frank!!!

presence already paying off.
Doesn't Wakefield throw something besides a knuckelball?

I thought he threw a curveball or “fastball” every once and a while.

I think he's got

a “Loiaza-like fastball”—like low 80s…

Actually mid-70s - usually around 75 MPH
Oh,

so maybe it is Loiaza

It is really dancing tonight:

I expect to see a lot of it.

just tuned in....only the 2nd

has it been a pop-up fest for us so far?

Just like the tart
mmmm.

pop tarts…

2 pops, 2 flies, 2 ks
You can buy a Shaw's loaf of

white bread for only .77 cents! Can you fricking believe that? Let’s move to Boston.

(checks glycemic index)
when you're in Boston,

no one checks their freaking GI, you bastahd. Shut up and drink your whiskey.

Not sure why that stayed in the park

Other than Hannahan being kinda weak.

Crap, there's a game on!

Go A’s!

am i the only one who would be DELIGHTED to win one of three this weekend?
they wont be standing when he continues to hit .220 w RISP.
i'd be delighted with three runs over the course of three games.
Well, shit,

.220 would raise our average by about 100 points, right? I thought we were talking about Boston…

Has Duke hit a wall?
Could be.

Has he ever pitched anywhere near the number of innings he is this season?

96 was his previous high (in 2004)

121 so far this year

And he's a history of back problems, right?
Curveball is key for Duke

if he cant get it over the plate he will get hit hard.

at least w frank you dont feel like a 1-0 game is toooo out of reach.
Loew's is giving away a $50 gift card for that run

to some Chowd. Lucky Chowd’s gonna get a push broom.

Kevin Cash? who the crap . . .
Wakefield's catcher
Mirabelli finally went away for good?
I hate the Angels but I would love to see them spank NYY
thats what oppossing teams have been saying about our lineup all year
Duke isn't getting much movement on his fastball so far

The curve is ok but he’s going to it more because the fastball isn’t doing a whole lot. Hopefully he’ll get it back today. I don’t think he’s hit a “wall” so much as he’s having a “blip” (mini slump) like all pitchers do.

It is a long season.
i despise the yankees, but i would still like to see them hand it to LAAAAA
Its tough for me, because I hate them both soooo much

but the Angels are making the playoffs no matter what. The Yanks could miss the playoffs and that makes me happy

Let's Go Oakland!
clap clap

clapclapclap

Time to go to the clinic ?
Lord loves a working man and

don’t trust whitey.

I'd love you if you were the color of a baboon's ass.
This music!

IT SPEAKS TO ME!

Man, I wish Barton would get on a roll like last september

that would be awesome!

I just wish he'd find his swing and look

like he did the beginning of the year.

The radio guy just said we have “a (chuckle) uniquely constructed batting order.”

Unique=bad?
oh yeah.

They’re laughing their Chowd heads off at us.

I don’t like them.

I have to admit

I dont expect much to happen unless Frank is up at bat. But I can hope that cust gets a hold of one every now and then

Those guys belong in the wikipedia entry for douchiness
barton, rookie of the year?
well technically, he is only a rookie for one yer.
well, he was swinging anyhow.
Bad results but good AB from Barton
eh,

he swung at balls 3,4,5, and 6 and fouling the ball off doesn’t impress me.

more so the number of pitches to saw than anything else.

Gameday’s not the best place to get pitch locations from

wish these Boston announcers would shut up about what a smart move it was to get rid of Ramirez
almost HR Zook
Man

72 mph fastball down the middle? swing at that!

I guess gameday just guesses knuckleball every time to be safe
Gripelet: Against Wakefield

you have to give the green light 3-0. And if you saw the pitch, you know why: A 73 MPH fastball down the middle when you can look fastball.

I just wonder if a pitch that slow,

even if it were right up the middle, wouldn’t “fool” people so used toswinging early.

It's about the speed of BP

Though I never understood why hitters wouldn’t prefer to take BP against 90 MPH in getting ready for a game.

ditto

...unless it could just be a psychological edge, perhaps. I make good contact, and here’s how I do it. I make good contact and here’s proof…

I dunno - considering how much of hitting is timing

I would think you’d want to get comfortable with the true speed. Might be one of those archaic “we’ve always done it this way” things that no one has the guts to change for their team.

Where can you find a BP pitcher who can throw 90, and be around the plate. If it

isn’t near the plate, you have watching practice, or an A’s regular season game.

By moving him in about 10-15 feet
you can't swing too early if you don't swing at all.

I understand the desire to want to make the pitcher throw a strike but . . .

Ump doesn't seem to care much for Duke
No kidding
"He had a childlike grace to him"

Yeah, that must’ve bee nwhy you couldn’t fling him far enough from oyu.

Never thought I'd say this, but ...

I wish ESPN would show more Red Sox games. I was hoping I might get a chance to actually watch the A’s play someone other than the Mariners, but no Red Sox all weekend. :-(

2 outs... shut em down Duke
Wow

I just turned on the TV in my tiny island apartment, and the A’s game is on.

Sure, it’s the Red Sox game for the Japanese, but what are the chances?

My first day off and I get to watch the A’s? Sweet!

Japanese TV showed a replay of each at bat from the previous inning rather than going to commercials
Jack Cust bobblehead?

Does it ever move?

"Jack Cust is

a (sarcastic tone) unique batter.”

They must have just learned the word "unique" today
Maybe it was on

the vobac quiz this week…

The Big Hurt

hurt someone.

nice to see Thomas back today
So far I'd say Tye Waller is an excellent third base coach
Yay, a hit!
I'm sorry, a what?
...

here

Oh I see - it's like one of those things Blanton gives up
Exactly!

You got it.

A gift the A's get from the baseball gods every once and a while.
OK

I had to switch to the A’s broadcast. It was kind of interresting to listen to the oposing team’s announcers but they talk about Manny Ramerize WAY too much. He’s gone, GET OVER IT!

Hello AN'ers.

That was quite painful listening to Jerry Remy talk negatively about Manny for 45 minutes. John Henry must be paying him extra for him to perform damage control with their fan base.

Duke is so pissed off for the organization not trading him… he will not wear a black jersey.

He loves that jersey
That's a direct quote, right?
Why isn't he wearing it tonight?
Home team pitcher chooses home jersey,

which determines road jersey.

Stay out of it, pal.
he thought it made him look fat

(another direct quote)

At least we got one hit

now i can sleep good tonight

g'night. dream of towering Cust HR's and stinging

Crosby doubles to the opposite field….with men on.

Boston announcer "hit for Carlos Gomez". Idiot!
If we get this Gomez guy hitting and then CarGo starts raking...

we could be a contender.

GOBBLY GOO
Every time I see your username I think about the movie "True Romance"

and Lee Donowitz’s Vietnam film- “Comin’ Home in a Body Bag.”

Why True Romance?
Huh? Lee Donowitz is a character in "True Romance"
was that Christian Slater's character?
Nope. Saul Rubinek played Lee.
Take that!

You god damned Pirate!

No wonder he has a hook

Not sure what’s up with the parrot, though.

Yar! Left field,

Thar be no Manny.

Walk the plank - set up the double play, aaaaar!
I don't watch NL baseball and I am glad that I don't have to see

Manny’s stupid smile when he fucks up on a play. What a tool.

Will the Yankee's make Manny get a hair cut when they sign him, like they did with Damon and Giambi?
Didn't we want to trade for Bay?
Yes - as you can see he doesn't get hits but gets on base!
i'll take two sir
No, we prefer

the rotation of Emil and Cust in left.

Im watching the Angels game also

I know wins for a pitcher is overrated but I have to admit that 5 pitchers with over 15+ wins on one team is just crazy

I don't think wins for a pitcher is overrated at all. It's a stat that means a lot
The average baseball fan overvalues wins by a pitcher.
As does the average baseball writer
And the weighted "All-Star" selections that come from W's.
and the HoF votes
curious... who was the last crappy 20 game winner?
True but how many guys had 12-15 wins that had a better

ERA than a guy who won 15-18 games?

I'm with you here - I get the point. I am actually asking the question though... can you think of a crappy 20 game winner off the top of your head?
Wilbur Wood was 20-19 in 1974 for the White Sox

(I had to look it up)

he played for a bad team too... so maybe he wasn't crappy
How many games did he start?
42 starts

Had an ERA+ of 105 (not terrible) and a WHIP of 1.202, but like jdub69 said, he played for a bad team, which is probably why he “lost” 19 games and only “won” 20.

No. That is why I said true because I agree that 20 wins

is a good indicator. It’s just that, overall, it’s a jaded stat.

agreed somewhat
Crappy pitchers on good teams are going to get more wins then most good pitchers on

a team like lets say the A’s

the problem is the Angels don't have any crappy starters, unfortunately
I hear ya

Santana is throwing darts right now. Guy has a very live arm

who didn't we want to trade for?
Oh, Hannahan, Bankston, Conrad...
That should be a real boost to our lineup.
This one might could be

very hard to watch

that's why, what the heck, i am dipping

into the Hagen Daz now.

Haha!

You and your sweet tooth!

this weeks Rolo bag made it to the office un-opened
I admire

your self-control

memory problem, forgot about then it was too late
{rings ak_A's doorbell}
Oh, regular doorbell
Candy-Gram!
Unicef!

Unicef, ma’am…

What game after the ASB hasn't been?

Only a slight exaggeration.

nah,

it’s a lot of fun.

DP…see?

Whooohoooo

for the DP!

What?

Bocro doubled?

off the GM, no less.
Wow, I haven't seen Crosby like that in forever
seriously, we HAVE to get that runner home.
huh? crosby, and he had his game face on too.
I'm thinking Frank and his rebar

had a little motivational talk with all our miscreants.

Hmmm
If Frank came in there and told me

that i had a responsibility to play the game with integrity and give my all, I think I’d do it. I think I’d be scared not to do it.

Especially,

if he was holding the re-bar in position

Ponson is pitching a no-hitter through 4

Turns out anything really CAN happen in baseball.

Sir Sidney?
that's the one
Tell me if it gets deeper and I need to monitor...
Sweeny friggin huge
maybe it's just my tv
Sweeney needs to go deep here.
I bet Barton wishes

that he could just do a 2008 do over. What a dissapointment

son of a btch!
damn. we suck in august, too
And Jason Bay

doesn’t

Manny would have had that on the second hop

Cust on the third one.

Jason Bay can just suck it.

Boooooo.

Maybe he'll hurt himself
What a play by Hannahan
Nice to see (hear) the D coming back a bit..
He sure was playing in on that one. Nice stretch by Barton.

Heidi Fleiss is impressed.

Lol!

I was impressed!

You're Heidi Fleiss??
Ssshhh!

Don’t be blowing my cover!

Oh...so it's Hidey Fleiss then...
Clever

Verrrry clever.

hannahan = gamer
zito = gamer
by transitive law,

Hannahan = Zito

Maybe the Giants should put Zito at 3rd.
Shit!

Let’s put him on the mound! We’ve got four or five years of quasi-quality starts left, but we gotta hurry!

The ESPN announcers keep calling him "Ziro"
more like

zito = gamey

my mlbtv went out...switched to audio

anybody elses?

Duke gettin' squeezed a bit tonight?
in Boston? no, never.
Is that a prediction?
Anyone with the NESN feed?

I love that porn music that plays during advertisements.

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