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Open Thread: Game 16 - A's vs. Gidres & Podants

UPDATE, 1:25 PDT - John Lackey left his start today with a strained right triceps and will miss at least a month of the season. Combined with Kelvim Escobar's injury problems, this could be huge.

It's Split Sad Squatterday!!! Through a miracle known in Science (and Trout Magazine) as fission, the A's - despite beginning the day as one single organism - are managing to host the Giants while they visit the Padres. It's truly incredulous, to the point where I am rendered incredible.

The starting lineups currently look like this:

Bucknorfia - CF
Ellilo - 2B
Cussweeny - DH
Chavannahan - 3B
Swe--

You know, maybe I'll wait for the real ones. Stay tuned.

OK, here we go...In the A's-Giants game, Henry Rodriguez takes the mound for his first starting effort, with this lineup behind him:

Ellis – 2B
Barton – 1B
Crosby – SS
Cust – DH
Murphy – 3B
Suzuki – C
R. Sweeney – CF
Linden – RF
Fiorentino – LF

In the A's-Padres game, Lenny DiNardo takes the mound with this lineup behind him:

Denorfia – CF
Buck – RF
M. Sweeney – DH
E. Brown – LF
Johnson – 1B
Bowen – C
Hannahan – 3B
Conrad – 2B
Petit – SS

 

 

 

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Lineups

Oak Vs SD

Oakland

Denorfia,
Buck, RF
Sweeney, M, DH
Brown, E, LF
Johnson, 1B
Bowen, C
Hannahan, 3B
Conrad, 2B
Petit, SS

San Diego
DaVanon, RF
Iguchi, 2B
McAnulty, LF
Clark, DH
Greene, SS
Bard, C
Fick, 1B
McDougall, 3B
Crabbe, CF

Lenny Dinardo on the mound going against Leblanc

mcnulty?

I already miss this show more than you could possibly know

And it hasn't even been over for a week yet. I might have to rewatch the whole series.

Other Lineup

Oakland
Ellis, 2B
Barton, 1B
Crosby, SS
Cust, DH
Murphy, 3B
Suzuki, C
Sweeney, R, CF
Linden, RF
Fiorentino, LF

San Francisco
Roberts, LF
Velez, 2B
Lewis, CF
Schierholtz, RF
Frandsen, 3B
Leone, 1B
Ishikawa, DH
Rodriguez, G,
Ochoa, SS

what's for lunch?

I just had a homemade steak taco (yum!)

I forgot to have lunch today, maybe I will get something now.

There is a guy with a 510 jersey at the game,

wonder if he went down for ST

I've seen him many times in the LF bleachers

Roberts flies out 1 out

Where is Henry Rodriguez starting the year?

AA Midland?

Sounds like Stockton

should be an awesome rotation

velez pops out to Crosby as the wind

makes it difficult 2 out

Lewis walks on 4 pitches

Schierholtz singles in front of Linden

runner was moving 1st and 3rd

I wonder how the Padres game is going

another walk

bases loaded for the giants

Henry struggling, probably nervous

wild pitch scores a run

1-0 Giants

Leone walks reloading bases

H-Rod sucks

Release him.

Ishikawa grounds out to Ellis inning over

Ellis singles to left

Ellis is awesome!

Sign him to a 6-year extension!

Mike Sweeny Homer

1-0 A's

Actually 2 - 0

Travis Buck was on base too

Good catch..

Are you watching the game on gameday?

Yeah..

I didnt see Bucks single. Im eating at the same time. :)

Is the game loading slow for you too or is just me?

what's for lunch?

Made some sweet

Turkey Burgers.

oh goody, two runners on, no outs

Wow - Zito this spring:

7.1 IP, 14 hits, 0 Ks

last night I heard a commenter on KNBR

suggest that the Giants' stipulation in the contract that Zito stop surfing will hurt his ability to condition and keep his shoulders strong during the offseason...of course, that doesn't explain last season's performance...

Barry's fastball is only 83

JOHN LACKEY OUT AT LEAST ONE MONTH

with a strained right triceps.

so sad for him

Somewhere

Jason Kendall is smiling

Folks - the A's are in the race

I agree

I've been feeling pretty good about this team all Spring Training, but if the Angels start to have injury troubles like we did last season, it'll really give me some hope.

Crosby k's on a, wait for it, pitch down and

away

The A's better sign Mike Sweeney

Cust walks bases loaded 1 out

It's a no-brainer at this point

That was supposed to be

in regards to Sweeney.

I was thinking, you don't know me that well to call me a no brainer, do you

I don't believe so

:) You know I was joking right

Giants lose Murphy popup

A's lead 2-0

Murphy singles on a ball someone should have

caught, but 2 runs score
2-1 A's

oops, forgot the Giant's run

Just don't let it happen again :)

heaven't no -- it's bad luck

luckily, bad spelling has no effect ;-)

first real hit, by Suzuki, A's 4-1

what no love for ellis single to open the game?

I actually didn't hear it

was it a solid hit or a blooper?

solid :)

I seriously Heart Ellis, by the way

Suzuki doubles 2 more scores

4-1

San Diego game update

Petit and Denorfia singles, Hannahan K's, Conrad flies out to CF, Buck force out on a grounder to 2nd.

None score still 2 - 0

Sweeney singles Zook scores

5-1 A's

OT how do you shrink your pics for your profile image

I have the wash bobblehead, but it cuts it off

Email it to me.

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Hope the runs..

clam down HRod.

Sweeney advances to 2nd on a wp

Cussweeney would be one helluva hitter

Linden continues to sizzle

First hit since last Saturday

That is actually his 1st hit since he spouted off last week

really? has he been playing much?

Giants are getting their ass kicked

Linden ropes a double 6-1 A's

I wish we could play the giants like 30 times this year

we play the Giants 6 times on the regular schedule if that's any consolation

Linden singles Sweeney scores

6-1

Todd Linden hitting the ball again

And the Giants... are really, really bad. I mean, bad. This pitcher for them today must really be Misching his spots or something.

Fiorentino is the 9th batter of the inning

who's the new Giants pitcher?

Fiorentino walks, new pitcher on the way in

a righty

Brosius?

(any relation to Scott?)

Lenny Dinardo....

gets out of the 2nd inning, giving up a single, score is still 2 - 0.

Everywhere I turn I hear

people saying the Mariners are good. I just dont see it.

Everywhere you turn, people are saying

the A's aren't good, too. Pre-season picks are all about going with the obvious - picking who did well last year, or who has high profile names.

+1

If we are close in June/July

and bring up CarGon and Gio.. and maybe make a trade for whatever we need, we be in great position.

Ellis singles bases loaded

.1 inning for Mische and 6 ER against. ouch.

Barton flies out on a good catch by Schierholtz

no runners advanced

8-1 A's on Crosby hit

here comes Cust

Crosby singles 2 more in

8-1 A's

Even the Giants minor leagues must suck

Because this Broshuis guy went 3-17 with a 3.88 ERA last season. That's some ridiculously awful run support.

yay crosby. Lets go cust

let's see how Henry does

after that long bottom half of the first

Cust grunds out to 2nd inning over

8-1 A's after 1

DiNardo is having a tremendous spring

Why aren't people giving him more of a chance in the 5th starter derby?

Cause he's not 16 years old

Like the other guys.

I agree with you, though. We could do a lot worse than Lenny. If nothing else, he might be nice trade bait in June.

he might end up as the sixth starter/long reliever

I think he should be the 5th starter

the guys over at KNBR

have been saying that the minor league position players at AAA and the so-called younger guys in the Giants' camp are organization soldiers and AAAA types mostly, no real prospects in the positions at the upper levels. That's part of why you hear so much gallows humor on most of the programs. They know it's going to be a looonnggg season at the phone booth

Wow these SD

announcers suck.

How is the SD game going?

i wish they would follow the game more

i know it's spring training, but they're making it hard for me to listen. too much of a performance.

Yeah, we need pinpoint PBP

like during the Buancasts.

Rodriguez batting against Rodriguez

Crosby with a bad throw, but Barton makes the tag

Roberts singles to left

H-Rod better this inning

I'm chalking up the first inning

to first-start jitters. He threw lots of strikes in the 2nd.

yeah, that's what it sounded like

now Mische, on the other hand...

Velez flies out, Rodriguez settled down

6-0 A's

3 run HR by Conrad.

who is pitching for the Padres?

Wade LEblanc started

damn he really is having a fantastic spring

denorfia singles home petit

nice hit by Ryan Sweeney

your feed is ahead of mine

my radio is tuned to 1550 am

which at least for me tends to be ahead of kfrc-fm

I'm on mlb audio, so that is why

nice BP game vs the Giants

and vs the padres

Everyone seems to be making their cases to make the team

depends on who was the opposing pitcher

at least in part...also I doubt that an older player like Conrad will make the club. He's probably ticketed for Sacramento (unless, heaven forbid, there are infielder injuries on the big club)

In Conrad's case

that infielder would have to be Mark Ellis, because Conrad can't really play anywhere else but second base.

Sweeney doubles Zook scores

9-1 A's

Linden singles 10-1 A's

Fiorentino singles Linden to 2nd

10 hits for the A's so far

7-0 A's over Padres

going into bottom of the 3rd.

your info is ahead of Vince Cotroneo

he just announced that the other game's score was 3-0

Well if hes

using gameday or carrier pigeon yes hes behind.

well if they only have mlb scoreboard, that is what is says

Ellis flies out, in his 3RD AB OF THE GAME

and we are in the 2nd inning

Barton flies out 10-1 end of 2

Its prob safe to..

chalk up 2 more A's wins.

Andrew Brown is in to pitch

Wow these SanDiego guys..

are almost as bad as White Sox guys.

Its probably Jerry Coleman

hes incredibly popular down here in San Diego.

He shows..

no emotion for A's plays and way to much for the Padres.

Lewis lines out to Fiorentin, who makes a good

catch it seemed

Frandsen singles

sounds like a great play

by Murphy at third and Barton at first

7-1 A's Over Padres

after 3 full.

Crosby k's

great 3-spot performance so far

1-3 2k's 2rbi, not bad

Murphy single

thrown out, wasn't he?

to end the inning

Zook forces Murphy at 2nd

end of 3 10-1 A's

that's what I get

for multitasking

Brown K's the batter, 2 away

poor throw by Murphy, doesn't get runner

brining up the Giants' speedster prospect Eugenio Velez

Ha Ha Ha

Ha

We have havetwo lineups that are better than the Giants one! I love It!

Break up the A's -- and the Rivercats!

Giants are also playing two split squad games today

with most of the 25-man potentials in the other game.

But you're right -- even on KNBR they're predicting a dismal season for the Giants

uh oh, bases loaded for Lewis

AN Making its mark

Korach picks up The Buancast reference

guess we knew they read AN

good, routine grounder ends the inning

just joined and

WOW. hooray us!

tomorrow's game: A's vs Rangers

starters: Gio Gonzalez vs. Sidney Ponson

Sidney Ponson -

Yeah, the Rangers figure to contend this year.

Saarloos pitching against the Giants now

very economical 6-pitch inning

he's probably battling DiNardo for the swingman spot (sixth starter/long reliever). DiNardo is on the 40 man roster while Saarloos signed a minor league contract, so I'm guessing DiNardo has the edge.

So are you guys following both games in this thread?

which one do you have on audio? I'm here til my son finds a good stopping point in his video game so we can go buy a birthday present (and I have 2 hours in the house to myself!)

both are on mlb.com audio

but the game against the Giants is on the A's radio network (in the Bay Area, 1550 AM/KFRC FM)

Sweeney botched a fly ball runner on

2nd

1st and 3rd no outs for Giants

Horowitz singles run scores

10-2

Velez singles bases loaded

routine grounder, inning over

Denorfia went 3-4 today,

Great for Denorfia

Nice to see his stats improve as the end of spring training comes toward its end...

Zito gave up another 4 1st inning runs

Oh, he's just getting it out of his system.

Plus, he's due.

Do you think Linden is going to make the roster out

of spring training???

Wth Gonzalez out, why not?

only if they cut Emil Brown, or send Denorifa down. Too many Outfielders

Going to take a number of 40 man roster additions...

Means players being designated for assignment or else going on 60 day d.l.

over/under on Chavez and Calero

ending up on the 60 day DL?

Yes, quite likely on Calero...

Chavez I had not considered for 60 day... Guess a good possibility that he will go on 15 day d.l.

OTOH, Oakland will probably just wait a week or so and then think about putting him on the 15 day d.l. You know___ the Oakland way of using the d.l.

right, I'm expecting the 15 day DL for him

but wouldn't be surprised at the 60 day DL, when you consider how many surgeries he had, and the fact that he hasn't been able even to field grounders or run in spring training.

Now is the time to d.l. him for 60 days then so he will be back around 15 May.

that would make sense

thought it hasn't been the A's way of doing things.

Let's see if they do it prior to leaving on the 19th (after the game that day)

Don't think it works like that

I'd guess the first day you can put him on the DL would be the first day of the season, but with them being allowed to bring 30 guys to Japan (and 28 active by the time the games start) they might not even be able to DL him until the official opening day.

last year Kotsay was placed on the 60 day DL

on March 23. That was at least a week before the season started.

Which of the 3 is a better Center Fielder?

I say Linden. Thoughts?

Not sure. Let the Manager choose one...

obviously, we have no input

I've never seen Denorfia play, have no idea what he looks like in center field

25 man roster likely will carry

four outfielders (plus Cust). Buck is assured of a spot, Brown likely is as well (he signed a guaranteed major league contract). So you have Denorfia, R. Sweeney and Linden competing for the final two spots (I doubt Fiorentino will make it).

Concur on no Fiorentino... but he can play at Sacto

dont forget cargon

yes he hurt his hammy but he does have an outside chance to make it

I would guess no

I think it was an outside chance before he got hurt. With more options available, I think the A's would prefer to have him play at least a couple of months in Sacramento

wow, Zito gave up a grand slam to jojima...

ouch

Zito hasnt thrown a pitch

faster than 84mph since ive been watching.

Cust is gonna get a hold of one here...

Awww, only 4-5 for Linden...

gonna have to do better than that!

Conrad Mashes

I would imagine the ump gave a big strikezone late in a 10-2 blowout...I'll bet Linden was pissed if that's the case...

...check out Conrad...i don't know much about him defensively, but he's maching the ball...5 rbi today with his 6th double and second HR...offense wiins ball games....I'd like to see him get a chance while Chavez is out, but he's another non-Roster guy for whom there probably isn;t room

Yep, that is true that there is probably no room for him

on the big league roster. But can never tell what will develop if he is needed...

Zito still has no K's this spring...

maybe he should start surfing again.

His K/BB rate is..

INF

Every pitcher the A's

had going today had atleast 1 K. Except Shipman who pitch 1/3 of an inning.

Glad the A's didn't waste money on him!

Game over with a K

he other game is over, A's win 9-3

the mlb.com audio for that game is almost inaudible, for some reason

Well Bedard gave up 6

spring training stats are more than a little silly

true, but the concern with Zito is a possible trend

of decline, both with fastball speed (from 89 to 84 is significant if he needs it to set up his other pitches), and the fact that umps are rarely calling his curveball a strike now.

yeah, I'm glad it's not my concern

yeah, and even though spring training stats mean nothing

the Giants have to be concerned about Zito's performance

I think they have a lot more to worry about than is Zito gonna perform like a #3

Like hey, our entire infield is below replacement level. And our Center fielder is our best hitter, but we'll see how he looks after chasing flyballs and line drives all over our cavernous outfield for 162 games.

agreed

and Zito's performance is made more critical when you think of how much they are paying him...and for how long...even with deep pockets that has to limit their ability to sign better players

Zito's line today: 5.1 IP, 7 H, 7 R, 4 BB, 0 K, 2 HR

so, zito this spring

7.1 ip, 14h, 17r, 2hr, 6bb, 0k before today
5.1 IP, 7 H, 7 R, 2 HR, 4 BB, 0 K

12.2 ip, 21h, 24r, 4hr, 10bb, 0k

He must have decided to pitch to contact

As opposed to "pitch to contract"

Brooks Conrad had 5 RBI!

He should take over nicely for Mark Ellis if he keeps that up.

He's a 28-year-old career minor leaguer

with minor league numbers that aren't great by any means. I wish people would stop looking at a handful of ST at bats for the guy and look at his entire pro career before thinking Brooks frekaing Conrad is some kind of answer to a question other than "Who can get some at bats in Sacramento this year?"

If something happens to Ellis, Murphy (a younger, and significantly superior player) should, and likely would, get the first crack at the job. Unless of course he's playing short, then I give it to Hannahan. Then I give it to Melillo or Petit. I'm not sure when I'd let Conrad get a shot, but it wouldn't be until a lot of others completely failed.

Sounds like what you would have said about Jack Cust last spring, huh???

Yes, if you completely ignored Cust's MiL numbers

I know how horrible that Conrads were last season.

Just saying there is a time to wake up and take a closer look... at the numbers being posted.

I don't get what Conrad's doing there then

By your account, there's literally no use for him at the big league club. What do you think the front office is thinking by letting Brooks start all these games?

He's a better than average

4th middle IF. He'll make the team in the Scutaro role if Crosby or Ellis get hurt. Donnie Murphy is starting a lot of games too...

I replied to this a while back

however AN 3.0 has been really jumpy for me today. It's been a challenge sometimes to post. I in fact saw my response, but now it doesn't appear.

Anybody else having problems today?

(My post suggested that Conrad had a chance this year only if Ellis was hurt or traded; my understanding is that he only plays second base, unlike Hannahan, Murphy, Melillo and Petit.)

my head is going to pop

it just gets better and better. Our era is low batting average high this team looks tough. how in the heck are they going to be able to cut linden now?

Cut whoever is necessary... another team would want him so he will ask for his release.

how many of Linden's hits

were against pitchers on the opposing teams' 25-man club? He didn't start that many games, and many of those hits were against non-roster pitchers, so that may temper the A's interest in him.

mike sweeney

on extra innings with buan!

Very rough number, but per ESPN's standings, A's have

given up fewest runs in the Majors this Spring. And have scored the third most.

Just another nice factoid for the unquenchably optimistic.

(me, fer instance).

it is spring training, after all

Giants leading Mariners 14-8, top of the ninth

no Japan trip for Chavvy

this is hardly a surprise -- Slusser is reporting that the A's have officially decided against it. He'll stay and work out, hopefully play some games, with the minor leaguers. Also, Carlos Gonzalez won't be going. However, he may join the club for the Bay Bridge series to close out spring training.

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